[accessibleimage] Re: Haptic rendering of images
- From: "Will Pearson" <will-pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <accessibleimage@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:49:19 -0000
Hi Peter,
Yes, this sometimes works quite well, and that is exactly where I used the
gradient-based forces for in case > of the Logitech Wingman Force Feedback
mouse. However, typical images contain lots and lots of tiny details and
associated "valleys" for those snap constraint > forces, such that one
gets confused about unimportant edges versus important contours. It is
probably solvable > with much more advanced contour detection algorithms >
that discard the noise of many local
edges, but I did not further investigate this because it is > far from
trivial to design a good robust edge-prioritizing > algorithm.
Agreed. One useful starting point may be to run some psychological studies
aimed at trying to determine the key characteristics that people use to
identify objects that form part of images and how they differentiate these
objects from the rest of the sensory stimuli. I suspect that differential
thresholds are used in most cases, but can think of cases where differential
thresholds alone would not be sufficient.
An easy starting point to validate or invalidate this idea might be to
just use The vOICe as-is with a Logitech Wingman Force Feedback mouse, and
import image files that have been manually preprocessed for leaving in >
only relevant edges - probably much like was done with > the Virtouch
mouse educational material. It
would give some indication of whether this approach would yield results
that are sufficiently intuitive to warrant the effort of designing an
appropriate and automatic "cartooning" algorithm.
Thanks for the suggestion, it's something I may look into further in the
future if I get time to investigate life like images.
Will
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edges, but I did not further investigate this because it is > far from trivial to design a good robust edge-prioritizing > algorithm.
would give some indication of whether this approach would yield results that are sufficiently intuitive to warrant the effort of designing an appropriate and automatic "cartooning" algorithm.
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