[accessibleimage] Re: Fwd: Tactile Graphics - Assistance Needed

Regarding the smudging issue, I have a work around that works with my printer, which is an HP deskjet 6122 (my school district bought them in bulk). If I get a good clean black image and I don't have time to wait, I blot the image with a tissue or paper towel. I do this by laying the tissue lightly and flatly on top of the swell paper. Then I hold it still with one hand while using my other hand to rub gently but firmly over the image. If my original image is good, then the blotting does not reduce the raised lines on the image. 
Susie

Ann Gardiner wrote:

I use an HP deskjet 1280 printer and print on to swell paper (Zy-tex as sold
by American Thermoform)and use HP ink with the printer settings:
normal printing greyscale black cartridge only 
and have no problems. If the printer is set to colour printing the black is
sometimes created by a mixture of the colours and therefore is low in carbon
and the image will not raise effectively.

You may need to let the ink dry overnight if there is a lot of black in
patches rather than lines. I find with the newer paper I need to leave it
about an hour or so at least to avoid smudging.

If you want colour on your images it may be best to photocopy the image.
Phil Eccles at Zychem has information about the best ones to use.


If you need any information about using zy-tex (swell paper) I suggest you
contact Phil Eccles who is only too willing to share his expertise.
http://www.zychem-ltd.co.uk/

Phil developed the paper in the UK.


Best wishes
Ann

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Ann Gardiner
01928 733040

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Cassandra,
I had the same problem when I printing onto swell form paper from my Epson Ink Jet printer. The ink smudged and never puffed up in the swell form machine.
I also have an HP Laser Jet Printer - unfortunately the heat from the Laser Jet created a background texture on the swell form paper before it even got to the swell form machine. 

I ended up purchasing a small Cannon office photocopy machine.
Now I print out my image (on either my ink jet or laser jet printer) and then photocopy it onto swell form paper and finally run it through the swell form machine. It's an extra step but it works.
I was told a few years ago that swell form paper (and flexi paper) react to ink with suffient carbon. When the black (carbon rich) image heats up, it puffs. My Epson Ink Jet did not work - I guess because the ink does not have much carbon. 

Hope this helps.

Sincerely,

Noreen Grice

Sharon von See wrote:


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From: Cassandra Tex <tex@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Tactile Graphics - Assistance Needed

Greetings All,
Sorry for the cross-posting....
I have a Tactile Image Enhancer (TIE) and use "Flexi-Paper" - not to be confused with the special puff paper that one uses with the P.I.A.F (Pictures in a Flash). The packaging for the FlexiPaper states that it will work with HP Inkjet printers. I just did a test with a graphic - I printed it on HP 6620 Deskjet and it did not work. The ink never really dried on the paper, and when I put it through the TIE, it smeared and did not "puff up". A couple of questions: 

1.  Is there a difference between Deskjet and Inkjet printers?
2. Are folks successful printing their images on FlexiPaper designed for the TIE on inkjet (or deskjet) printers and having that image puff up when run through the TIE? If so, what model inkjet/deskjet are you using? I cannot get the image onto the FlexiPaper using either my laser printer or our copy machine because they simply get too hot and jam. 

Any assistance you can give me would be greatly appreciated!

Cassandra Tex
Assistive Technology Specialist
Humboldt State University

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