[accessibleimage] Re: Accessible graphics programming using Logo and The vOICe
- From: Lisa Yayla <fnugg@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: accessibleimage@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 11:28:27 +0200
P.S
One point more, once you make a Logo graphic, embosses out very nicely
with Tiger. And to think of it, haven't tried it, but opening the
graphic in say PictureBraille etc, could than make it suitable for other
embossers.-
Best,
Lisa
accessibleimage@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
Hi Peter,
I LOVE turtle graphics and the whole idea behind Logo. It's purpose was
to introduce children to the concepts of programing. Very intuitive.
I have often wondered if this would be a good technique for drawing for
blind people. It works with writing directions - ahead 10, turn left,
ahead 10 etc.
It was started at MIT by Seymour Papert http://papert.org/ resulting in
a "philosophy" called, if I remember correctly, functionalism.
Lego based it's Mindstorm kits on it. That is a kit for making robots.
There has been done some work by a MIT student some years back to make
that system accessible for low-vision users. Unsure if I posted that on
the list or not -if interested drop me a line and will send.
A great book to read about it's use in a school situation is Children
Designers by Idit Harel
To change the subject but stay on the same subject, I also wonder if SVG
would also be a useful tool for drawing for VI people. That is one uses
text to draw. Similar, in that you write to define a form, to Logo. It
is not very difficult to hand code - what do you think?
It is wonderful that you have this on your site Peter and for blind
users!!!
Best,
Lisa
Peter Meijer wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Some of you may be interested in tools for programming graphics
> content. One way of working is to use so-called "turtle graphics"
> programming in the Logo language. There is a nice free interpreter
> for this language named MSWLogo. It allows you to program line
> drawings, define shapes, and even create 3D graphics. Moreover,
> it also can generate animated GIF images of the drawing stages.
> Such GIF animations can be imported into The vOICe via Control O.
> There is now a new draft web page describing this approach to
> accessible graphics creation, at the URL
>
> http://www.seeingwithsound.com/turtle_graphics.htm
>
> It contains an example of drawing a filled square in 2D and a
> cube in 3D. In the final animated GIF image results you will
> hear the sides of the square and cube appear in subsequent
> soundscapes. Of course it takes some effort to first master the
> Logo programming language. For an introduction to Logo you can
> read the Wikipedia web page at the URL
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logo_programming_language
>
> Best regards,
>
> Peter Meijer
>
>
> Seeing with Sound - The vOICe
> http://www.seeingwithsound.com/winvoice.htm
>
>
>
>
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Hi Peter, I LOVE turtle graphics and the whole idea behind Logo. It's purpose was to introduce children to the concepts of programing. Very intuitive. I have often wondered if this would be a good technique for drawing for blind people. It works with writing directions - ahead 10, turn left, ahead 10 etc. It was started at MIT by Seymour Papert http://papert.org/ resulting in a "philosophy" called, if I remember correctly, functionalism. Lego based it's Mindstorm kits on it. That is a kit for making robots. There has been done some work by a MIT student some years back to make that system accessible for low-vision users. Unsure if I posted that on the list or not -if interested drop me a line and will send. A great book to read about it's use in a school situation is Children Designers by Idit Harel To change the subject but stay on the same subject, I also wonder if SVG would also be a useful tool for drawing for VI people. That is one uses text to draw. Similar, in that you write to define a form, to Logo. It is not very difficult to hand code - what do you think?It is wonderful that you have this on your site Peter and for blind users!!!
Best, Lisa Peter Meijer wrote: > Hi All, > > Some of you may be interested in tools for programming graphics > content. One way of working is to use so-called "turtle graphics" > programming in the Logo language. There is a nice free interpreter > for this language named MSWLogo. It allows you to program line > drawings, define shapes, and even create 3D graphics. Moreover, > it also can generate animated GIF images of the drawing stages. > Such GIF animations can be imported into The vOICe via Control O. > There is now a new draft web page describing this approach to > accessible graphics creation, at the URL > > http://www.seeingwithsound.com/turtle_graphics.htm > > It contains an example of drawing a filled square in 2D and a > cube in 3D. In the final animated GIF image results you will > hear the sides of the square and cube appear in subsequent > soundscapes. Of course it takes some effort to first master the > Logo programming language. For an introduction to Logo you can > read the Wikipedia web page at the URL > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logo_programming_language > > Best regards, > > Peter Meijer > > > Seeing with Sound - The vOICe > http://www.seeingwithsound.com/winvoice.htm > > > >