Yes Derek, we all know what Dave said so why have a two way conversation on this list? Take it up with him privately. The subject line is and has been for about two weeks, when is the new Braille coming? So when is it coming there hasn't been an answer yet. Seems a long thread, wonder when it will peter out? Cheers Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 12:08 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: when is the new Braille coming out as I have had some information Dave says "You are simply going to have to realise that what I and no doubt many others are saying is true." No, what you say, or what i say, is an opinion. "Some people who are Braille readers find that the Braille won't fit through their letter box, and would rather have it delivered in a format they can have delivered any time. In fact, many get them by email now." And how many of those receiving via email, are then reading same jn Braille! Well I am positive, most on this list, are not reading emails in Braille. "Others do it simply because it is quicker to listen to something than it is to read it in Braille. Others because they can put it on a portable device and listen to it on the move, or even read it on a Braille display without having all the bulk. Others do it so they can keep back copies for longer." And others because to lazy to read Braille. And just for record, the letter box issue is a pathetic reason not to have hard copy Braille magazines.. I don't have a letter box as I had it sealed. But i have absolutely no problems receiving Braille books or even parcels when I am out. I have a wooden box in my porch, and mail is left in the box. If I have to be away few days, I use Royal Mail's "keep safe" service. Regards, Derek ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq