[access-uk] Re: using google efficiently

I think it would be great if JAWS placemarkers would allow you to jump straight away to the first/second/third instance of any given string on a web page, rather than just a specific line in the virtual buffer. This would make them far more useful.

James
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Hartgen" <brian@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 7:16 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: using google efficiently


Hi Steve

Of course if the person had J-Say Pro (smile), they could say "find cached". Not difficult.

Alternatively, if using jaws, a script could be written to find the first instance of the word Cached, then put the person back a link. The person would only then have to press the keystroke to get to the google search results of importance.

Seriously Steve though, I agree with you. Along with table navigation keys, the jaws find is one of the essential tools anyone should have when browsing the web which surprisingly get overlooked.



Brian Hartgen

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 11:27 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: using google efficiently


Hi James,

This is always a difficult one though. How for example, do you train
someone to use a computer, before they know the keyboard? You have to make
some assumptions, and I think training on the virtual find, should be quite
early on in the process of teaching the web with JAWS. But of course, this
is my personal view, and not necessarily a recommendation.

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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
James O'Dell
Sent: 28 April 2006 12:28
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: using google efficiently


Hi Steve

yes I have purchased both of these tutorials and agree they are excellent.
I was just trying to think of the person who Graham is training though,
entering "cached" is all very well if you understand the idea of the virtual
find feature and if you have a basic grasp of what "cached" means and why
you are entering it, but that might not be the most intuitive method for
someone with no experience at all. Jonathan's tutorials are good, but he
wisely assumes a reasonable degree of computer knowledge (how else would you
purchase and play the tutorial?).

James

----- Original Message ----- From: Steve <mailto:steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Nutt
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 8:06 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: using google efficiently

Hi James,

I tend to follow Graham's way and search for the word Cached, and that tends
to work.

By the way, there is an excellent tutorial on Google from Jonathan Mosen on
http://www.mosenexplosion.com. And if you think you know Google well, so
did I, but I still learned from it.

I don't sell this or anything, but I do highly recommend it. His tutorial
Speaking Of Skype is equally excellent. As ever, they are both very well
researched. They are a bit JAWS oriented, but you can still get a lot from
them if you use another screen reader.

All the best
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
James O'Dell
Sent: 27 April 2006 22:48
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: using google efficiently


Try playing with the "next non-linked text" setting and personalise it to
Google.  You might be able to get it so that it generally skips the
sponsored Links, although I'm not sure how reliable that will turn out to
be.

James

----- Original Message ----- From: Graham <mailto:gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Page
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Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 10:11 PM
Subject: [access-uk] using google efficiently

Hi all.

I am a regular internet user and tend to use google for searching as many
do.  When training new users, the bigest problem is getting past the
sponsored links quickly and looking at the propper results.

I search for the word Cached and then know that probably I am on the first
result. Anyone else got any suggestions? I use JAWS version 7.

Cheers

Graham
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