Hi John and Jim - For some reason this didn't reach the access-it list, even though it is in my sent messages folder, so here again is the message I sent this morning, hope it's of some use: Hi Jim - I managed to find this for you, hidden away on my laptop, hope it helps in some way: PANASONIC DVD DMR EX 769 INSTRUCTIONS RECORDING A PROGRAMME: 1. Press the function key [right of the right arrow key] 2. Down arrow once to record. 3. Press ok. 4. Press ok again for new programme. 5. Select the channel using the number keys. 6. Doing this will then move across in to the date field; arrow right if the date is correct, or arrow up/down for the desired date, or use the number keys to enter the desired date dd. 7. Now enter the start time using the 24 hour clock, when entered, we are automatically taken across to the end time screen, so enter it. 8. We are now in the drive screen, default is hdd, arrow down once for DVD if required. 9. We are now in the mode screen, default is short play, if this is the desired mode, just arrow right, if not, arrow down to different mode, then arrow right for next screen. 10. This is now the sl or something screen, just leave it and arrow right. 11. This is now the AD screen, arrow down once to auto. 12. Now press ok. 13. Now press the return key [the one below the function key], and we are back at the TV screen. PLAYING BACK A RECORDING: 1. Press the function key [right of the right arrow key] 2. Press the ok button. 3. This brings up a screen of little preview windows, with the cursor on the last recording, which will begin to play; if this is the desired programme to listen to in full, press ok again, and it will start at the beginning of the recording. 4. Use the arrows keys to move back and forward through the preview windows of recordings, pressing ok will play the recording. 5. To delete a recording when highlighted, press the stop key first to stop the recording, then press the delete key [directly below the number 7 key] the prompt is "are you sure" so just arrow left once for yes, and hit ok. 6. To leave the playback menu, press the return key [just below the function key] to return to the TV. STOPPING A RECORDING IN PROGRESS: 1. Press the stop key [large square button 2 keys below the delete key] 2. The default prompt is "are you sure" arrow left once for yes, and press ok. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Williams To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 10:50 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: to Jim re DVD recorders Hi Andy, Very interested in your appraisal of the Panasonic DVD recorder, can you let me know which model you have? And how do I get to the archives to find your report. Jim Williams ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ANDY COLLINS Sent: 10 December 2010 22:38 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: to Jim re DVD recorders Hi John - I acquired a Panasonic DVD with built-in free view and hard drive, that I went in to some detail describing on this list, about a year ago. I have found it very accessible after some initial sighted help to learn my way around the menus. I can now select and record from any free view channel, on any given day in the month , as well as select the AD for programmes that have it. I can also scan through the recordings, and select the one I wish to view. I am also able to use the DVD drive for watching discs. I think the only thing I can't do is view on onscreen EPG. I know there are those people that can't or won't make the effort to get to grips with stuff, and from the feedback I got after reviewing my DVD recorder on list, indicated to me that unless it was specifically designed with blind people in mind, then it was going to be too difficult to operate. However, I don't consider you in this group, and believe with a bit of effort, and some sighted help and brief notes to get you started, you would probably get good use from this machine. I'd have to check for it's model number now, but you could probably find my detailed description of how to operate it in the archive. Unfortunately, I didn't keep a copy of those messages - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: john coley To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:07 PM Subject: [access-uk] to Jim re DVD recorders Hi Jim, I've never come across nor heard of a DVD recorder accessible without sight. Even should it have some physical controls a lot of it is going to be menu driven. How, for instance, would you title a recording, let alone locate it on the hard drive? I await responses with interest. An accessible DVD recorder has been on my wish list ever since they came out, and I'd love to be able to use one, but can't see that it would be doable. John. ----- Original Message ----- From: john coley To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 7:02 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: to Jim re DVD recorders Hi Andy, yes, the model you mentioned was a Panasonic 769, if I remember rightly. I haven't started investigating yet. John. ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDY COLLINS To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 6:52 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: to Jim re DVD recorders Hi John - Did you have any joy with the archive? I sent a message to this list this morning directed to Jim, with the model number and operating instructions, but for some reason, 7 hours later, it hasn't shown up, so I'll be interested to see if this message makes it, before reposting the other message - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: john coley To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:46 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: to Jim re DVD recorders Thanks Andy. I remember the thread. I'll go and dig it out. John. ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDY COLLINS To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:38 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: to Jim re DVD recorders Hi John - I acquired a Panasonic DVD with built-in free view and hard drive, that I went in to some detail describing on this list, about a year ago. I have found it very accessible after some initial sighted help to learn my way around the menus. I can now select and record from any free view channel, on any given day in the month , as well as select the AD for programmes that have it. I can also scan through the recordings, and select the one I wish to view. I am also able to use the DVD drive for watching discs. I think the only thing I can't do is view on onscreen EPG. I know there are those people that can't or won't make the effort to get to grips with stuff, and from the feedback I got after reviewing my DVD recorder on list, indicated to me that unless it was specifically designed with blind people in mind, then it was going to be too difficult to operate. However, I don't consider you in this group, and believe with a bit of effort, and some sighted help and brief notes to get you started, you would probably get good use from this machine. I'd have to check for it's model number now, but you could probably find my detailed description of how to operate it in the archive. Unfortunately, I didn't keep a copy of those messages - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: john coley To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:07 PM Subject: [access-uk] to Jim re DVD recorders Hi Jim, I've never come across nor heard of a DVD recorder accessible without sight. Even should it have some physical controls a lot of it is going to be menu driven. How, for instance, would you title a recording, let alone locate it on the hard drive? I await responses with interest. An accessible DVD recorder has been on my wish list ever since they came out, and I'd love to be able to use one, but can't see that it would be doable. John.