But my point is that, it's very much easy to comaplain how a certain software developer didn't do this and that, while we should also consider the fact that these things are not easy. I know that not all of us are programers, but in my opinion talks is an excelent program and I think that we should be greatful to be able to use a mobile phone in a way that we couldn't even dream of a few years ago in stead of constantly complaining about it. I'm not going to get in to debate of PDA-s/note takers because I don't use any and personally am not a big fan of those, but when it comes to talks I know that the software is being constantly developed/improved and that we're pritty much being informed on it's progress. Vanja MSN messenger: sudar23@xxxxxxxxxxx AIM: vanja121 Skype: vanja121 http://www.sudar.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: Ian Macrae To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 4:23 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: the Maestro Sorry but in john's defence I think that argument sucks. I suppose you think that while he's about it he should build himself a VI friendly PDA as well. On the other hand, I would just say to John too that Freedom Scientific made a big mistake in rushing out the PACmate. I got mine at about this time last year and it had more bugs than a Jarrow doss-house. This caused an immense amount of frustration and grief for people trying to learn a new product that basically didn't work properly. So if Visuaid are holding back in order to ensure that the Maestro is completely ready to go before releasing it, then good on them. However, I feel that they should be prepared to tell people the score. Now, what was I doing? Oh yes, I was about to attempt to make an accessible car seeing as no-one else has got round to it yet. Cheers now. Ian ----- Original Message ----- From: Vanja Sudar To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 3:31 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: the Maestro The talks development team are working all the time and web access should be present in version 2 coming out the end of jan/beginning of feb, you're on talks list and if you've been following it you should have known this. If you rthink it's easy, make a mobile speach program your self. Vanja MSN messenger: sudar23@xxxxxxxxxxx AIM: vanja121 Skype: vanja121 http://www.sudar.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gallagher" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "access-uk-freelists.org" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 11:55 AM Subject: [access-uk] the Maestro > Hi Ian, > I think it was on in touch where Jackie Cairns did a very good article on > just this sort of thing. > companies making promises but then things went quiet. I think on the pda > access we as totally blind persons get a very rough deal. It's the same > with talks the web access was to be out last year but now we cannot get > any info. > well we must wait and wait then. I also am aware of dolphin putting hal on > the pda's that is another possibility. > all the best. > > > ** To leave the list, send a message to:- > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, send a message, to ** > access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > ** To leave the list, send a message to:- ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq