Hi, Hence the institution of memory sticks for the Plextalk players. I was hoping that we were getting close to being able to buy books as anyone else can buy them and as we can buy Braille books. I love Braille, but storage is of course a problem; but there are books I would like to have rather than merely to borrow.. Well done to all those who are trying to obtain a safe system for all of us. Cheers, Mike From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Iain Lackie Sent: 12 June 2010 23:35 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: talking books I think RNIB would do the same if they knew of people doing this with their talking books. Iain From: Neil Jarvis <mailto:neiljarvis@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 10:44 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: talking books Stretching the definition? Its more than that. People who do that are personally and individually responsible for creating obstructions to access to information for blind people. They personally and individually allow publishers and others to throw up their hands and say: "there you go: what did we tell you." If I knew of specific people doing this with my Library I'd remove their borrowing rights. ----- Original Message ----- From: JOHN <mailto:john.godber@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 5:35 AM Subject: [access-uk] talking books hello you can indeed buy some of RNIB's daisy audio books. about 350 titles are currently available. We are working on a way to make them all available for sale. We believe that blind people should have the same choice as sighted people - to buy or borrow. But if you borrow you shouldn't copy and keep! that is stretching the definition of "library" and "borrow". You can browse daisy books for sale at: http://onlineshop.rnib.org.uk/browse.asp?n=11 <http://onlineshop.rnib.org.uk/browse.asp?n=11&c=478&sc=0&it=2&l=2> &c=478&sc=0&it=2&l=2 John