Hi Simon. Its at www.sky.com/accessibility. All the best, Ibrahim. ----- Original Message ----- From: goshawk on horseback To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 10:56 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: sky talker very latest gospel truth well, I don't know where you get the audio magazine from, I have been trying to get it for the last 10 months at least, and still haven't got it yet. Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: Ibrahim Gucukoglu To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 8:33 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: sky talker very latest gospel truth Hi William. Clearly you are disapproving, this isn't for you and clearly you feel that it is inadequate. I feel the same way, but sometimes we have to shrug our shoulders and accept that some accessibility is better than no accessibility. This product was probably designed to cater for the needs of many people, not just the totally blind. Market forces will decide whether this is a success or failure, but one thing I am certain of is that if we scoff and criticize without giving constructive feedback, they might just shelve any further developments on this whole concept and leave us exactly where we are now. I've been a sky digital customer since the service launched and I can tell you that things are a lot better in terms of accessibility than they ever were when I joined, for instance no accessible customer service, no audio description and no accessible TV guide or accessible sky information portal and certainly no audio magazine. Sometimes we just have to accept that developing products that cater for the needs of many is the motivation behind the biggest companies as they've more to gain by that than by catering for the needs of a handful. I could go on in this vein but I've better things to do. All the best, Ibrahim. ----- Original Message ----- From: william lomas To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 7:44 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: sky talker very latest gospel truth seventy quid to know if i have turned my tv on? do they think we idiots? On Oct 4, 2010, at 6:52 AM, Barry Hill wrote: Thanks, Damon. It sounds like it will be an expensive ornament. I'm struggling to see what it will do. Cheers Barry ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Damon Sent: 04 October 2010 6:12 AM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] sky talker very latest gospel truth Hi. I've got a mate at Sky who tells me that the new Sky Talker doesn't read the EPG, it won't let you record, it actually can't tell you what channel you're on but it does tell you if your television is on or off. But not if you've got HD. ...Damon