[access-uk] Re: re building a Web Site

Microsoft Word isn't designed for website production full stop. Being 
able to save documents to pseudo-HTML isn't the same thing as being a 
website creation tool.

If you do want to spend a few hundred bucks on some software, you could 
buy DreamWeaver.

Generally, I'd invest money in hiring designers, programmers, and 
testers rather than buying programs, because there's almost always a 
free alternative that does what you need.

Just so people understand, Microsoft FrontPage no longer exists, it's 
been retired. The Microsoft Visual Web Developer range has replaced 
FrontPage; it's not a rival product. The Express Edition is the free 
version. From what I've seen of it, Visual Web Developer still defaults 
to generating markup tailored for use with Internet Explorer, rather 
than for general web interoperability.

You could also use NVU or Amaya, which are free and open source 
authoring tools:

http://www.nvu.com/index.php

http://www.w3.org/Amaya/

I'd strongly recommend using an ordinary text editor or IDE (Integrated 
Development Environment) for marking up documents instead of /any/ of 
these tools. But in any case I would suggest learning HTML before 
attempting to produce a website with such quick-fix programs, so that 
you have some understanding of their idiosyncrasies. It helps you 
understand what's going on when somebody comes back and complains that 
(for example) the ActiveX control Visual Web Developer dumped into your 
page doesn't work in their Firefox web browser.

But Alan was warned about professionals. <grin/>

Note that if Alan's son's website is to be an actual online store where 
customers buy products and orders are tracked in a database, rather than 
just a promotional website, it will likely prove more cost-effective to 
hire someone to build and maintain the site, partly because of the 
complex security issues involved in taking payments and protecting user 
data. Another alternative might be to use a totally hosted but skinnable 
third-party solution like Shopify:

http://shopify.com/

--
Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis

Christopher Hallsworth wrote:
> Just a pointer. If your son cannot afford the money for Microsoft
> FrontPage or Word, he can write web pages without knowing HTML by
> downloading the free Microsoft Visual Web Developer Express Edition.
> Visit http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express to find out more. Hope
> that helps.
> On Thu, 3 May 2007 15:51:56 +0100, "Ray's Home"
> <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:
>> Well, I hear the HTML that Front Page churns out isn't as bad as Word
>> itself.
>>
>> If your son does want to go the more techy route he could do worse
>> than look at a link which, I think, was posted here:
>>
>> http://www.benjaminhawkeslewis.com/www/web-design/getting-started
>>
>> HTH.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> From Ray
>> I can be contacted off-list at:
>> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
>> Behalf
>> Of George Bell
>>
>>
>> Hi Alan,
>>
>> If your son can use something like Word for Windows, and
>> understands the basics of files and folders, then he should
>> find getting a web site up and running is a doddle with
>> something like Microsoft Front Page.
>>
>> Having had some seriously nasty quotes from so called
>> professionals, that's exactly what I did.  Take a look at
>> http://www.techno-vision.co.uk.  It's not brilliant, but it
>> needs to be accessible, simple, and not have me spending
>> hours pouring over HTML code.
>>
>> The "professionals" here will doubtless say that FrontPage's
>> HTML is rubbish and all sorts, but who sees that anyway - it
>> works, doesn't it?
>>
>> George.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of alan pollard
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:19 PM
>> To: access uk
>> Subject: [access-uk] re building a Web Site
>>
>> Hi List members,my Son has asked me to inquire through my
>> list memberships about alternatives ways re setting up a
>> Business Web Site, that is the Economics and the
>> practicality of building one from available downloadable
>> Software,as compared to getting it contracted out ,If anyone
>> has any imformation such as Sites to visit,or personal
>> experiences with building a Site,or any other imfo, they
>> could share with us,it would be much appreciatedThank you in
>> advance.Alan!.=20
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