[access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
- From: "Adrian Higginbotham" <adrian.higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 14:45:08 +0100
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Adrian Higginbotham
Accessibility content manager
British Educational Communications and Technology Agency - BECTA
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
roger south
Sent: 31 May 2007 13:34
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
Hi Andy
Why do you think Jim Dale won't read the new book? If the money is right I'm
sure he will.
Roger
Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:27 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
> To be honest, I have prefered the Jim Dale readings, but JK is going to
> have
> a problem getting him to read the new book! :]
>
> I'm always pleased to hear of improvements, and it does sound like the
> RNIB
> library will have improved from the change in law, but what about their
> thousands of old recordings, have they been dropped? I would expect not -
> Andy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "roger south" <roger.south@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:45 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
>
>
> |J K Rowling, the author of the Harry Potter books, stipulated the audio
> | versions must be read by Stephen Fry in the UK and Jim Dale in the US.
> To
> my
> | knowledge no other versions are available at all.
> |
> | Out of interest to Andy the RNIB books are now all read by professional
> | readers. Mainly actors but also news readers and disc jockeys. People
> who
> | use their voices in their profession and therefore have more control of
> the
> | tones used.
> |
> | I have a very severe hearing loss, 97/98%, so quality sound is vitally
> | important to me but I don't often have problems with either the RNIB or
> the
> | CALIBRE books which are the ones recorded in the later years. I
> understand
> | they both once used volunteers who may have been a little lacking but
> those
> | days are long gone.
> |
> | Roger
> |
> | Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once.
> |
> |
> | ----- Original Message -----
> | From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:31 PM
> | Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
> |
> |
> | > Andy, and further to Iain's comment, the version sold by RNIB will
> | > indeed be the Stephen Fry reading of HP. You see RNIB is allowed to
> | > DAISIFY commercial books since the changes in copyright law.
> | >
> | > Cheers,
> | >
> | > From Ray
> | > I can be contacted off-list at:
> | > mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
> | >
> | > -----Original Message-----
> | > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> | > Behalf
> | > Of Iain Lackie
> | >
> | >
> | > Books in the RNIB talking book library are not read by some bloke they
> | > have
> | > dragged in offf the streets.
> | >
> | > Iain
> | >
> | > ----- Original Message -----
> | > From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | >
> | >
> | > Ah! but is the RNIB daisy recording of the new HP narrated by Stephen
> | > Frye,
> | > or some bloke they've dragged in off the street as with other of their
> | > 'recordings? :] - Andy
> | >
> | > ----- Original Message -----
> | > From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> | > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 1:28 PM
> | > Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
> | >
> | >
> | > | Roger, I can agree with you about the mark up generally applied to
> | > | specialist stuff for us, and almost expected by them as of right.
> | > |
> | > | Harry Potter audio version? A bit different, or so I contend.
> | > First
> | > | off Stephen Fry won't be paid peanuts for his commercial recording
> | > of
> | > | it, plus paying for studio time, art work, distribution etc.
> | > Visually
> | > | impaired people are not the only audience either for these books.
> | > OK,
> | > | so this is a popular title that will be bought by many thousands of
> | > | people, but don't forget that public libraries are a gaurantteed
> | > | market for audio book producers, and like a good bit of access tech
> | > | sales, the price can be wound up to soak the big buyers at a price
> | > | that couldn't be got otherwise.
> | > |
> | > | Synical though that view just (might) be, these are the realities as
> | > I
> | > | see them. This said, audio books, particularly unabridged ones, are
> | > | always going to be more exspensive than print versions. The only
> | > way
> | > | this reality can be broken is with the sort of subsidy that RNIB as
> | > a
> | > | charity can bring into play when it sells the small number of
> | > talking
> | > | books that it does. There Roger, as a blind person, is your way
> | > out
> | > | of getting the latest HP at a similar price to your print book
> | > buying
> | > | genral public. Buy a DAISY version of the latest HP from RNIB. (No
> | > | commission on that sale, unfortunately.) No wonder I've never made
> | > it
> | > | in the big bad world of business!
> | > |
> | > | Cheers,
> | > |
> | > | From Ray
> | > | I can be contacted off-list at:
> | > | mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
> | > | -----Original Message-----
> | > | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> | > | Behalf Of roger south
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | I do understand the Milestone and the BC have more functions but not
> | > | as ;;many as costing £200 more. I'm a firm believer in the
> | > | manufacturers see the disabled as a means of making more money with
> | > | the equipment we need. I'm convinced there is a price cartel that
> | > | keeps the price up because then we can't go elsewhere.
> | > |
> | > | When something like the Zen Stone comes along it emphasises just
> | > that
> | > | point. Look at the price of audio books. The new Harry Potter is
> | > | priced I believe at £85. I will be able to buy a print copy a few
> | > days
> | > | after the release on the 21 July for around £8.99 if previous books
> | > | are anything to go by. But for the sake of a few CD's at around 8
> | > | pence each and the box to put it in we'll say a fiver I have to pay
> | > | £85. Now if that isn't ripping off the disabled what is. The same is
> | > | true of the players you mentioned but I'm climbing on my soapbox so
> | > | I'll shut up now.
> | > |
> | > | Roger
> | > |
> | > | Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once.
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | ----- Original Message -----
> | > | From: Ian Macrae
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | Makes you wonder why the milestone is so expensive comparatively
> | > | dunnit. any views?
> | > |
> | > |
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> | > | Behalf Of roger south
> | > | Sent: 30 May 2007 11:15
> | > | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | I've ordered one of these from Amazon at £27.99 plus p & p totalling
> | > | altogether £30.12. It arrives tomorrow and sounds from the write-ups
> | > | very good. But at that price if it's not what I want I can give it
> | > | away as a present and not lose any sleep.
> | > |
> | > | Roger
> | > |
> | > | Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once.
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | ----- Original Message -----
> | > | From: Adrian Higginbotham
> | > | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> | > | Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:50 AM
> | > | Subject: [access-uk] new accessible mp3 player
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | Just read about the upcoming release of a new screenless audible
> | > | compatible mp3 player, at under £30 for 1gg version. and no
> | > | proprietory software like Itunes, just use it like any USB drive.
> | > | http://accessbrit.wordpress.com/
> | > |
> | > |
> | > | Adrian Higginbotham
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