[access-uk] Re: k reader
- From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:11:12 +0100
Dean, personally I can't stand the UK English Eloquence full stop, PC, phone or
anything else come to that. I think the PC and phone versions of both the UK
English and American Eloquence sound pretty similar, depending on what it goes
through obviously. I used to hate the American Eloquence when I first started
using JAWS, but I got used to it, and prefer it to the rest of these voices
now. It's just down to preference and what you tune into.
Personally, I'm a very big TALKS fan. It's worth every penny, and has made a
massive difference to my life in what I can achieve with a mobile. I've never
had so many jokes and laughs, and control over what I want to do with a PDA
since it came out. Fab! and now K-Reader gives you another string to your bow
if you can afford it.
Jackie
Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx
Skype Name: Cairnsplace
----- Original Message -----
From: Dean Wilcox
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 2:50 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: k reader
If you read a lot of things, like lengthly E-mails or web pages you might
want to try the vocalizer voices as I think you'll be impressed. Eloquence is
still the responsive one for general use though and is great fast but everyone
has their own preference. Do you think the accents of the phone and PC
eloquence engines have grown apart or is it just me. I can't stand the UK on
the PC but use it on the phone.
At 14:44 27/04/2008, you wrote:
Hi Dean
TALKS zips through the menus on the N82, it's really responsive.
Absolutely fab!!
I agree it would be nice if the K-Reader could use the same voice as TALKS.
All in all, it's a very neat setup.
Jackie
Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx
Skype Name: Cairnsplace
----- Original Message -----
From: Dean Wilcox
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 2:14 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: k reader
I dnever had the original reader but I do like how the phone version
starts to read before it has finnished processing, slightly making up for its
slower processing speed. Strangely, I now prefer the UK Eloquence but when I
first got it with Talks a few years ago I didn't like it but I stuck with it
and changed my mind! I was playing with both the other day and I don't know if
things have changed but I'm sure the American and UK voices have completely
different accents than the PC version. I used to remember them being identical
but that could be my preference. The RealSpeak voices sound like lower quality
recordings but but if you try Talks with the RealSpeak voices the RealSpeak
licence also comes with the use of Vocalizer, a much better set of voices in my
opinion. It is therefore a shame you can't use your Talks voices with the KNFB
reader. I also love the phone with its size, WIFI, Satnav receiver all be it
average, the zip utility it has and the improved music player to my 6680.
Talks is so much more responsive now
At 13:45 27/04/2008, you wrote:
Hi Terry and All
I put my own original K-NFB Reader alongside the K-Reader that now
works on the N82, and scanned a variety of items such as utility bills, bank
statements, medication and boxes of frozen foods. By and large, I found the
results pretty much the same on both, but I did find the original K-NFB Reader
processed things faster than the phone version.
But what I love about the phone over the original is its size and
obvious portability. It's amazing to sit somewhere and just bring it out of
your pocket to scan something. Yes you can also do that with the original, but
the phone is so cute and neat.
What I don't like about the phone version over the original, however,
is the voice. The phone only has the Eloquence English version, where the guy
frankly sounds really stuffed. I'm obviously used to using the American
version of Eloquence, as I do with JAWS. I know they are planning to
incorporate another voice, but please God don't let it be RealSpeak as in Jane
or whatever her name is, as she's awful as well.
I got Ian to ring the N82 number while I was reading something with the
K-Reader, and it definitely interrupts that and allows you to take your call,
only to go back to it when you end the call. That's pretty cool I must say.
I also really like the N82 phone. It has a nice keypad and is smaller
than my N91 or the N95 for that matter.
While I borrowed it, I updated the N82 to the latest version of TALKS,
and that improved this habit it used to have of TALKS chuntering when you
entered the K-Reader software. It doesn't do that now, which is much better.
I'm no expert about this product though, and had a play with it for a
few days. I agree it is expensive, nobody is going to deny that, but it's a
great piece of kit if you want all the facilities of a good phone with TALKS,
plus the ability to be able to scan on your travels, all in one device.
I hope that helps.
Jackie
Email: cairnsplace@xxxxxxx
Skype Name: Cairnsplace
----- Original Message -----
From: terrcooper
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 12:43 PM
Subject: [access-uk] k reader
Hi Jackie
If you get five minutes, could you give me an overview of what you
thought of the KNFB reader.
would be very much appreciated.
Thanks.
Terry
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