Hi Andy, I think if it was a JAWS script problem, others would be yelling too. Since you have ordered the JAWS 6 upgrade, I might be inclined to suggest you wait and install that to see if it solves the problem. Otherwise it's definitely back to hunting down newer video drivers. George. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Logue Sent: 09 January 2005 00:06 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: jaws saying star Hi George. I changed my screen colours back to Windows Standard and re-booted but the problem was still there. I even tried High Contrast number 1, before changing back to number 2, I think it could even be a jaws script problem as when I press enter on a message to read it, jaws announces "forms mode off" after reading out the various fields at the top of the message. I have downloaded everything George, including SP2 I'm getting updates every few days and these are being installed automatically. Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 11:00 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: jaws saying star > Hi Andy, > > Darren is right, it could well be related to your colour > contrast scheme. It is certainly worth turning it off to > see if that solves the problem before you go any further > with drivers. If it does solve the problem, then this may > have to be approached from another angle. > > One other thing I should have asked of course, is whether or > not you have check to see if all the latest Critical Updates > have been applied. Have you checked to see if it came with > SP2 applied? And even if it did, there have been updates > since. It is also possible that ATI may have released > hardware updates to Microsoft for inclusion in the Hardware > part of the Update process. > > George. > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Logue > Sent: 08 January 2005 19:24 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: jaws saying star > > Hi Darren. > > Goodness, I hope the same is not the case for me! I hate > Windows Standard as the brightness blinds me. High contrast > number 2 has been a friend since Windows 95, and I'd like to > keep using it. If, for some reason, I couldn't, then I'd be > as well turning my display off. Perhaps If I'd have done > that years ago, I'd be much better on the computer eh? > > Thanks for the information. I will try changing the display > colours to see if this makes a difference. George seems to > think that I need to get more up to date display drivers. > Not sure at all as I've never come across this particular > problem before. > > Best wishes. > Andy > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Darren Brewer" <darren.m.brewer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 6:21 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: jaws saying star > > >> Hi Andy >> >> A while back I started using jaws and found that I had > problems with >> reading messages in outlook express. It wasn't until > recently that I >> discovered the problem was because of the colour scheme I > was using. For >> some reason the high contrast schemes seem to cause > problems with the way >> jaws reads the messages. With me it was repeating lines > over and over >> which became very annoying. I solved the problem by > changing the colour >> scheme to either windows standard or windows classic. Then > when finished >> change it back to high contrast number 1. Although I have > to llog out and >> then og back in as for some reason the icons in the system > tray become >> invisible.after changing colours. >> >> Darren - The Brummy Woodworker >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Andy Logue" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 12:54 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] jaws saying star >> >> >>> Hi all. >>> >>> I've sent this message to both PC Audio and jfw lists and > got no >>> response. >>> >>> A few days ago I wrote seeking advice about a problem I > was having with >>> my >>> version of JAWS, which is 4.2. Everything works as > expected until I open >>> a >>> new message in Outlook Express and tab down to the main > body of the >>> message. >>> Instead of JAWS key echoing every keystroke, it is saying > the word "star" >>> on >>> everything I type. >>> >>> I have contacted Sight and Sound and have sent them a > cheque to the value >>> of >>> Â300, to upgrade from 4.02 to version 6, but I'm not > convinced that this >>> will resolve my problem. >>> >>> I am using xp home edition and I have my display settings > set to high >>> contrast number 2. - I have some limited peripheral > vision and the high >>> contrast number 2 has worked well in the past. >>> >>> While arrowing through my messages in Outlook Express, > JAWS announces all >>> the messages as you'd expect. However, when I press the > Enter Key on a >>> message to read it, JAWS announces "Forms Mode Off" just > before going >>> into >>> the main section of the message. JAWS will continue to > read the message >>> as >>> normal, but If I wish to sent a reply to that message or > send a new >>> message, >>> JAWS simply key echoes the word Star on every keystroke. >>> >>> I'm convinced that the cause of this problem lies within > my display >>> settings >>> as I've tried JAWS 4.5 and experienced the same > difficulty. >>> >>> The only other difference between this and my old > computer is that this >>> new >>> one has a flat screen. >>> >>> Any advice would be very welcomed. >>> >>> Thanks in advance. >>> >>> Andy. >>> ** To leave the list, send a message to:- >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> ** and in the Subject line type >>> ** unsubscribe >>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, send a > message, to ** >>> access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>> >>> >> >> >> ** To leave the list, send a message to:- >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, send a > message, to ** >> access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, send a message to:- > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, send a > message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > This Message has been scanned for viruses by McAfee Groupshield. > ** To leave the list, send a message to:- > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, send a message to:- ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq This Message has been scanned for viruses by McAfee Groupshield. ** To leave the list, send a message to:- ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq