[access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
- From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 28 Dec 2006 23:35:35 -0000
Hi Andy.
The reason i said go to 6630 first was because bluetooth is disabled by
default on the n91.
Unless you'd sighted help it would be difficult to get in there.
I think you could expect to pay £10 for a bluetooth adaptor.
It's pretty nuts though that you'd have to go out and spend money in this
case.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Collins" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 11:30 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
Hi Barry - Well, have done the uninstall of PCSuite, and installation of
different versions. I don't have a Bluetoothe stick, not sure what they cost
or where to get one from, or how to install it for that matter, but if I had
one, then surely I could Bluetoothe directly from PC to N91 bypassing the
6630? Bluetoothe would still need to be configured in PCSuite of course, so
no guarantees it would work, though I suspect that my problem is to do with
drivers, but I can't resolve it; haven't tried a system restore, so could
give that a go tomorrow, thanks. -
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 11:07 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
Andy.
Have you a bluetooth usb stick?
I'm not suggesting you go and buy one. However, if you have one why not
bluetooth the files from your computer to the 6630 and then bluetooth from
the 6630 to the n91?
I've been following your emails and it souns like a driver install/uninstall
has went a bit mad somewhere along the lines.....
What about a system restore to before all this mess started?
Uninstalling pc suite and starting over?
Barry
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Collins" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 11:01 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
Hi Steve - thanks; I had some eyes look at all my issues with the N91 and
PCSuite, and he's quite computer savvy, but we're still no further really!
What I've now done is to install my early version of PCSuite that worked
with the 6630 [my idea was to get the new talks files on to it's mem card,
and bluetoothe them across to the N91], this done, I connected the 6630, and
the hardware wizard came up, and this time, actually began the installation,
completing several installs for things such as Parent, Generic and Odex, all
of which show up in the device manager on the hardware tab, so that looks
ok, but it did stall on the Modem installation, saying it couldn't be
installed, giving me the message that the hardware might not function
properly. Anyway, I looked under my computer at phone browser, and this time
I could access it; under phone browser there was my contacts, my gallery, my
messages, and retrieved files. What I really need is access to the phone mem
or mem card, to drop the TALKS files on, but these aren't showing up under
phone browser.
Also, when I looked under connection manager, the only connections available
to me were Bluetoothe, Infrared and serial cable connection, in the past I
have had the choice of 4 connection, the fourth being the all important USB
cable connection, but now it's missing!
I'm tired now, so hope this makes sense, and would appreciate any feedback
and ideas. -
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 6:18 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
Hi Andy,
All, if mine is anything to go by. It is not signed or unsigned, it is
signed or all. It means only allow signed software, or allow all software
to be installed.
All the best
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Andy Collins
Sent: 23 December 2006 13:31
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
Steve, do you know when buying an N91 brand new [unlocked, no sim] if the
default setting is for signed or unsigned software?
-
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 12:24 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
Hi Carol,
The problem here is that the keystrokes vary from phone to phone, from
firmware to firmware, and even from operator to operator. For example,
there is one setting on the phone, called Software or Software
Installations. If this is set to Signed Only, then your Eloquence won't
install. If this is set to on, then it will. But this is on only some
versions of the phones. For example, I know someone who has an N91 on
Vodafone, which has the software set to signed only, so you absolutely =
need sighted help to turn it on. You can't write this up, because it is in
a different position on the menus, according to different operators. =
There is nothing that either Nokia or Nuance can do about the way operators
= configure their phones by default. So unacceptable as it is, as Peter
quite = rightly said, we will have to live with it for the moment. Part of
it is = Nokia's fault, but not when they change phone default settings.
One thing I will say is that you absolutely must have the time and date
correct before you install, otherwise the certification won't work.
All the best
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf =
Of Carol Pearson
Sent: 22 December 2006 10:35
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
Barry,
You have my deep sympathy here. I really do think key strokes should be
available. It's just not that easy to get ready-made help at the drop = of
a whatever! <Smile>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 9:15 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
>I agree Peter. It is very frustrating.
>
> I've subscribed to the talks list now as well and generated about
> 30=20 emails on this.
>
> People have either got sighted help or it's been fluked it seems and I
> =
> can't
> get any word on any documentation available.
>
> I'm not asking to be hand held I'll read anything that'll get me up =
and
> running.
>
> I've been asking all over the place.
>
> Alot of people seem to be sus cause I bought it off Ebay.
> I bought it off a high ranking Ebay shop that I've bought from before
> =
and
> who even replyed to my question about the phone's UI last night.
>
> The time/date have been set and the menus have not been altered from =
the
> oridginal nokia menu structure.
>
> The seller explained to me that if it's locked to a network they can =
use
> their own menu theme.
>
> I'm having to hoof it from lisburn to Whiteabbey today to see if =
anyones
> about in my student digs that could read the screen for me. I doubt =
it
> though.
>
> I don't and will go to whatever length I have to to get it read to me,
> =
but
> it's ridiculous that common keystrokes can't be given to get me to
> a=20 common place on each phone so we can start from their.
>
> I plan on writing up a how to on this once I get this thing
> talking.=20 Maybe it's time to open source the docs if Nuance don't
> have any that tell somebody who's totally blind without some sighted
> at home to read the screen?
>
> I'm not too proud to ask for help but it becomes very old quickly!
>
> Barry
> =D4=E0=06
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Peter Beasley" <peter@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 12:54 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
>
>
> This situation is unacceptable.
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:40 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
>
>
> Hi Steave.
>
> Won't have a pair of eyes till xmas.
>
> And you know what that can be like on xmas day.
>
> Did the steps i went through sound correct?
>
> Do I need to allow install files and if so any idea what the =
keystrokes=20
> are?
>
> Is their any documentation for this?
>
> Thanks
> Barry
> =D4=E0=06
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:26 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
>
>
> Hi Barry,
>
> Sounds like there is an error in the install process. This is why
> I=20 always say that for a first time install, you need a pair of eyes
> around. =
Best=20
> to
> find some peepers and see what is going on.
>
> All the best
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =
Behalf=20
> Of
> Dj Paddy
> Sent: 21 December 2006 17:50
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] installing talks 3g On N91
>
> hi all.
>
> I've got a n91.
>
> Bought brand new and unlocked.
>
> Is there any documentation for installing talks?
>
> i've it connected to the pc suite no problems.
>
> I've the talks files no problem.
>
> Can some kind person do a step by step for me?
>
> Here's mine that I did.
>
> 1. Turned phone on,
>
> 2. Set location, and time/date in the form
> 0706
> date: 201206
>
> 3. Connected usb cable.
>
> 4. down arrowed once on phone and hit select to connect it to the pc.
>
> 5. Hit enter on the elaquince file in explorer and said yes to =
install.
>
> 6. Kept hitting key one during install untill i heard the high pitch
> =
beep
> to say it had completed.
>
> 7. hit enter on the talks file and did the same I did on the =
elaquince
> file.
>
> Except the talks file does a low tone bleep at me several times.
>
> I do not get anything talkign to me.
>
> is there a launch talks keystroke?
>
> Can somebody provide me with where the talks key is on the n91?
>
> Any documentation woudl be greately appreciated.
>
> Cheers
> Dj paddy
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