[access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 23:19:07 -0000
Hi Carol,
If you don't get anywhere, listen to our Podcast, called Our Place in the
New Year. I will be reviewing the podcasting side of it. It is a brilliant
phone.
Our Podcast is at http://www.comproom.co.uk/ourplace.htm. You can subscribe
from there, or manually download the shows.
All the best
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Carol Pearson
Sent: 23 December 2006 19:23
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
Hi,
Well, I'm not thinking of going for an N91 right now as I need that new
router first . . . but I have heard of people going to the phone shop to get
software installed.
I was looking for a full description of the N91, with its list of bells and
whistles but couldn't seem to find it.
Any suggestions?
--
Carol
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 6:25 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
> Hi Carol,
>
> Anyone can send us a phone with a tenner, if they own Talks, and we will
> install it for them. We do offer that much, and I strongly advise you
> take
> it up, if you don't have sighted people around for a while. Even if you
> don't own Talks, we will install it and give you the 30 day demo for a
> tenner, then if you want to buy it, we just give you the unlock code on
> payment. We do what we can to support you, but we can't cover every
> situation where you don't have sighted help, particularly as some people
> just walk into a phone shop and buy a Talks compatible phone. By the way,
> have you ever thought of asking the phone shop to help you install Talks?
> I
> have heard of people who have had it installed successfully by the phone
> shop, even though they bought it from us. But again, we will install if
> you
> are stuck.
>
> All the best
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> Carol Pearson
> Sent: 23 December 2006 16:38
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
>
> OK, point taken, but perhaps we still ought to be bringing more pressure
> on
> the phone companies to install software for us before sending out phones
> etc., because some of us just don't have enough support to manage that
> sort
> of thing. I don't think I accept entirely either that Nokia can do
> nothing
> more, because they too could have a system where software could be
> installed
> before sending to a blind person, and Nuance perhaps could carry some kind
> of information on their site about the different way phones install so
> hence
> the need for sufficient support before purchase.
>
> Anyway, just my thoughts!
>
> --
> Carol
> carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 12:24 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
>
>
>> Hi Carol,
>>
>> The problem here is that the keystrokes vary from phone to phone, from
>> firmware to firmware, and even from operator to operator. For example,
>> there is one setting on the phone, called Software or Software
>> Installations. If this is set to Signed Only, then your Eloquence won't
>> install. If this is set to on, then it will. But this is on only some
>> versions of the phones. For example, I know someone who has an N91 on
>> Vodafone, which has the software set to signed only, so you absolutely =
>> need
>> sighted help to turn it on. You can't write this up, because it is in a
>> different position on the menus, according to different operators. =
>> There is
>> nothing that either Nokia or Nuance can do about the way operators =
>> configure
>> their phones by default. So unacceptable as it is, as Peter quite =
>> rightly
>> said, we will have to live with it for the moment. Part of it is =
>> Nokia's
>> fault, but not when they change phone default settings.
>>
>> One thing I will say is that you absolutely must have the time and date
>> correct before you install, otherwise the certification won't work.
>>
>> All the best
>> --
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>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> =
>> Of
>> Carol Pearson
>> Sent: 22 December 2006 10:35
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
>>
>> Barry,
>>
>> You have my deep sympathy here. I really do think key strokes should be
>> available. It's just not that easy to get ready-made help at the drop =
>> of a
>> whatever! <Smile>
>>
>> --
>> Carol
>> carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 9:15 AM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
>>
>>
>>>I agree Peter. It is very frustrating.
>>>
>>> I've subscribed to the talks list now as well and generated about 30=20
>>> emails
>>> on this.
>>>
>>> People have either got sighted help or it's been fluked it seems and I =
>>
>>> can't
>>> get any word on any documentation available.
>>>
>>> I'm not asking to be hand held I'll read anything that'll get me up =
>> and
>>> running.
>>>
>>> I've been asking all over the place.
>>>
>>> Alot of people seem to be sus cause I bought it off Ebay.
>>> I bought it off a high ranking Ebay shop that I've bought from before =
>> and
>>> who even replyed to my question about the phone's UI last night.
>>>
>>> The time/date have been set and the menus have not been altered from =
>> the
>>> oridginal nokia menu structure.
>>>
>>> The seller explained to me that if it's locked to a network they can =
>> use
>>> their own menu theme.
>>>
>>> I'm having to hoof it from lisburn to Whiteabbey today to see if =
>> anyones
>>> about in my student digs that could read the screen for me. I doubt =
>> it
>>> though.
>>>
>>> I don't and will go to whatever length I have to to get it read to me, =
>> but
>>> it's ridiculous that common keystrokes can't be given to get me to a=20
>>> common
>>> place on each phone so we can start from their.
>>>
>>> I plan on writing up a how to on this once I get this thing talking.=20
>>> Maybe
>>> it's time to open source the docs if Nuance don't have any that tell
>>> somebody who's totally blind without some sighted at home to read the
>>> screen?
>>>
>>> I'm not too proud to ask for help but it becomes very old quickly!
>>>
>>> Barry
>>> =D4=E0=06
>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>> From: "Peter Beasley" <peter@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 12:54 AM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
>>>
>>>
>>> This situation is unacceptable.
>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>> From: "Dj Paddy" <mygroups@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:40 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Steave.
>>>
>>> Won't have a pair of eyes till xmas.
>>>
>>> And you know what that can be like on xmas day.
>>>
>>> Did the steps i went through sound correct?
>>>
>>> Do I need to allow install files and if so any idea what the =
>> keystrokes=20
>>> are?
>>>
>>> Is their any documentation for this?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Barry
>>> =D4=E0=06
>>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 10:26 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: installing talks 3g On N91
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Barry,
>>>
>>> Sounds like there is an error in the install process. This is why I=20
>>> always
>>> say that for a first time install, you need a pair of eyes around. =
>> Best=20
>>> to
>>> find some peepers and see what is going on.
>>>
>>> All the best
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On =
>> Behalf=20
>>> Of
>>> Dj Paddy
>>> Sent: 21 December 2006 17:50
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] installing talks 3g On N91
>>>
>>> hi all.
>>>
>>> I've got a n91.
>>>
>>> Bought brand new and unlocked.
>>>
>>> Is there any documentation for installing talks?
>>>
>>> i've it connected to the pc suite no problems.
>>>
>>> I've the talks files no problem.
>>>
>>> Can some kind person do a step by step for me?
>>>
>>> Here's mine that I did.
>>>
>>> 1. Turned phone on,
>>>
>>> 2. Set location, and time/date in the form
>>> 0706
>>> date: 201206
>>>
>>> 3. Connected usb cable.
>>>
>>> 4. down arrowed once on phone and hit select to connect it to the pc.
>>>
>>> 5. Hit enter on the elaquince file in explorer and said yes to =
>> install.
>>>
>>> 6. Kept hitting key one during install untill i heard the high pitch =
>> beep
>>> to say it had completed.
>>>
>>> 7. hit enter on the talks file and did the same I did on the =
>> elaquince
>>> file.
>>>
>>> Except the talks file does a low tone bleep at me several times.
>>>
>>> I do not get anything talkign to me.
>>>
>>> is there a launch talks keystroke?
>>>
>>> Can somebody provide me with where the talks key is on the n91?
>>>
>>> Any documentation woudl be greately appreciated.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Dj paddy
>>>
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