Hi again Daman. Forgot to add in my last message on this thread that another aproach to your problem might bve a slide-out tray attached underneath the desktop, if there is enough space. And, yes, I enjoyed the Dr. Who too. Some Pratt on Saga said he thought it wasn't 'American' enough to succeed. Tank God, or whatever you belive in that there is still room for British execentricity or originalality or whatever you want to call it. Ray Personal emails: Email me at mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damon" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2005 10:36 AM Subject: [access-uk] how do you do braille displays? Hi. This is a quick digital lifestyle question for all you braile display users out there. How do you use your braille display? Where do you position it? Do you put your keyboard on top of it or beside it or what? For years I've positioned my keyboard on top of the braille display but since yesterday I've been trying to change my habits. I now have a new desk and a new chair. The desk, however, is perhaps an inch higher than the last desk and I'm noticing definite shoulder strain issues trying to reach my keyboard all the way up there atop of my display. I'd always noticed a level of strain but it's a little more apparent now. The display makes the keyboard an inch or two higher: I've got an old 40 cell PowerBraille here at home. The good people from Health&Safety at work tell me that your elbows and wrists should be on a level horizontally in order to stop excess strain on your arms, shoulders, back and neck. Leaving the keyboard on top of my braille display means that there is a definite 15 or 20 degree upward slant of my forearms and more pressure on my shoulders. In fact I've had to give them the deep heat treatment aftrer a few hours at my desk. Hence the desk alteration. Am I kidding myself to think that I can use my braille display just as effectively if the display is behind the keyboard? It puts me in mind of the old Versabraille or the old BrailleLink that we used to have in the computer room at Worcester. Using the keyboard like this means I am relying more on speech as the braille isn't quite so close at hand. This could result in more spelling errors, I'm thinking. It does seem that bit more comfortable to write, however. Are there any RSI suffering folk out there who are torturing themselves because they feel they have to keep their keyboard on top of their braille display purely because of the design of the thing? Or perhaps I am the last in a long chain of people to realise that there are better ways of holding yourself? Any thoughts on matters ergonomic or health&safety relating to Braille displays and the unnaturalness much appreciated. And wow wasn't Doctor Who fantastic? ...Damon ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq