Only two brief things I can say here Simon. 1. Always pays to look at more than one source of advice, although I think a straightforward full list of names of suppliers and contact info should be provided by someone, especially those who shouldn't have a commercial axe to grind, i.e. situated in the vol sector. 2. Along with this, impartial advice, as far as that is really on offer, should make itclear what a screen reader actually is. So, is Guide a screen reader in the propper sense? I would contend that maybe it isn't. I believe it might be described more accurately as a 'self-voicing apllication suite'. Please someone correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the Guide software puts users in a VI friendly environment outside of MS Office, or anyother app that a screen reader can handle. All the best. Ray Personal emails: Email me at mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "simon.dowling" | hi list, just out of interest typed in guide screen reader in to google as I | haven't heard of this screen reader before and wanted to find out its | features. | now here's the strange part, I will just give 2 examples below and let you | judge for your self. | www.keyspell.com claim to be the screen reader experts, aren't they all? | well no mention of window eyes, look out or guide. | and | www.uky.edu/TLC/grants/uk_ed/at_reading.html | don't mention hal/sn look out or guide. | now surely, a person looking for a new screen reader who is new to all this, | should have the broadest picture possible? | he/she may be recommended a particular flavour of screen reader but they may | not have the funds or the time to invest in say the big three, namely hal | jaws and window eyes. | god knows they're all complex for the best of us at times especially when an | upgrade is out. | the only good thing I found that the rnib does mention all flavours of what | you can get so from an access point of view surely these so called experts | should have mandatory links to all possible avenues and not force the | consumer down a specific road. | can of worms or what? | Simon | owner of the winMX mailing list. | to join, send a blank email to: | winmxfortheblind-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx | msn simodowl@xxxxxxxxxxx | skype: slifinger | ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq