[access-uk] Re: help needed on the DDA
- From: "Christine Weetman" <goatmum@xxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:13:38 +0100
Perfect thought, keep them off the Scent Kevin and don't warn them you may
take action or you'll get nothing in writing to go by, just ask them to
confirm the phone call Please so you can understand! Christine W.-----
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From: "Barry Hill" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:01 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: help needed on the DDA
Perhaps the first letter could be one explaining how disappointed you were
and simply asking for clarification of the situation. If you start out with
the offence quoting the DDA, they will probably become very reticent and may
even deny all.
Barry
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From: "kevin and emma" <kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:50 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: help needed on the DDA
hi barry, agreed. graham has hit the nail on the head though. i've no
objection writing to your move, their lack of response or what they reply
with may well give me more amunition. but help in actually drafting an
appropriate letter would have the least i'd expect. i don't know the ins and
outs of the DDA. a letter written by someone who knows the DDA and who can
quote relevant parts of the DDA would add extra weight to any correspondence
i sent. i didn't need the DRC to tell me to write to your move, i'd already
figured that out for myself. what i was hoping for was help in drafting such
a letter, but it seems they can't even be bothered to do that. and as for
the RNIB ... well let's not go there! smile.
kevin (lord L)
"Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without
notice." - will durant
skype: lordandladyl
email/msn: kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry Hill" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 6:54 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: help needed on the DDA
The thing is, Kevin, if you do write to them, then you might get written
evidence of their discrimination. If they don't reply, you haven't lost
anything other than a little time and the cost of a stamp.
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: "kevin and emma" <kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:05 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: help needed on the DDA
derek, sure i could right to the company in question, which will achieve one
of two things. 1. they'll ignore the letter entirely, hence i'll be no
better off. 2. they'll write back giving me reasons why "in their opinion" i
can't do the job. reasons i've already heard and disagree with totally,
again i'm no better off. i could contact the CAB, for all the use that'll
be. i've had dealings with the CAB in the past and frankly all they can do
is ... give advice! they don't have any authority to do anything. again i'm
no better off.i need to speak with someone who knows the DDA inside out
before i contact your move, because i want to be prepared and have
documentation written by someone who knows what they are talking about.
sorry but CAB can't provide that, they are an advice bureau, hence their
name, in other words, no teeth! and writing to your move without such
evidence isn't going to help. they are hardly going to write back and say:
"sorry mr. lyon, yes we have discriminated against you, we appologise and
the job's yours". what i don't need is wishy-washy nonsense like i got from
both DRC, who basically gave a handful of reasons why i might have a case,
then gave one reason why i might not and then washed their hands of it), and
RNIB who basically didn't want to know fullstop.
kevin (lord L)
"Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without
notice." - will durant
skype: lordandladyl
email/msn: kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 5:26 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: help needed on the DDA
Hi Kevin
I note the Drc said:
"it could be said that you have been treated less favorably, it could also
be said that direct discrimination could have taken place.
Direct discrimination occurs when a person makes assumptions about a
person's
disability purely based on the fact that they have a disability.
"It could be said that the lady at Your Move assumed you would not be able
to
do the role of estate agent because you are registered blind, she did not
consider your own individual capabilities and did not look at reasonable
adjustments which could have been made for you."
But you have also been told by DRC
"Unfortunately, as there was not a particular post that had been advertised
that you were turned down for it could be difficult to prove that
a position would have been offered you if you did not have a visual
impairment.
The lady could say that there were no positions vacant."
What is wrong with the advice you were given which was:
"I would suggest that you write a letter to Your Move and ask for
justification on the treatment you received and explain that you feel that
discrimination did take place. If you receive a response you are more than
welcome to contact the Helpline again to inform us of the response but you
maybe unable to take any further action as you were not turned down for a
particular post."
RNIB says:
"RNIB does not have anyone who can assist with employment law. I would
suggest you approach your local Citizens Advice Bureau, as they can
assist with employment law."
So what's the problem there. you have been given advice how to get
help and the help is free.
Regards,
Derek
e-mail: derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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