[access-uk] Re: guide from software express
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:58:17 +0100
Hi Peter,
I totally agree. System Access is the only adaptive tech to get away from
this forms and browse mode for editing, and I like it too.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Peter Beasley
Sent: 30 August 2007 11:05
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: guide from software express
The one feature I like about system access, is that you don't have to press
enter when you want toenter information into an edit field whichcompletely
flummoxes sighted people if they are trying to use your computer
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 10:31 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: guide from software express
> Hi Ray,
>
> I think System Access is now a screen reader. The reason is that it now
> has
> a virtual mouse, as well as all the other stuff, and it presents Windows
> to
> the user much as the other screen readers do. Have you tried SA? If not,
> you really should.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> Ray's Home
> Sent: 29 August 2007 23:24
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: guide from software express
>
> Steve, interesting comments, and if you've seen my thoughts on what I
> understand Guide is, , then suite of self-voicing applications' would
> be more accurate a description than 'screen reader'.
>
> That said, wonder how you reckon System Access compares to screen
> readers proper. It seems to be a considerable saving over the big
> three, so, in comparison, what do you lose out on by going the System
> Access route?
>
> I have a practical reason for asking, apart from simply being
> interested. . a local organisation I have a little contact with is
> wondering how relatively new users, maybe even first time users of IT
> who are visually impaired, can be encouraged to use computers whilst
> avoiding the relatively high cost of a full screen reader. Comments
> on the use of the internet are certainly pertinent as this new local
> organisation does see the potential of computers for delivering their
> news letter, and promoting on-line discussions, be these via email, or
> even, maybe, voice chat. From what's being said, Guide would probably
> be something of a hindrance more than a help in this objective.
>
> I've said this to give some idea of the context in which I'm probing
> the cost effectiveness of System Access vs. a full screen reader.
>
> From Ray
> I can be contacted off-list at:
> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Steve Nutt
>
>
> Hi Brendan,
>
> I agree with all you say, but what bothers me more, is the price of
> Guide.
> It's about 400 quid, and I have had people, even of the older
> generation,
> who have literally hit Guide's limitations, and come to us to buy
> Window-Eyes. So having bought Guide, at 400 quid, they then outgrow
> it, and
> some people do you know, and then have to shell out another 500 quid
> for
> Window-Eyes, or even more for JAWS. This is a heavy investment for
> anyone,
> if they are going to hit its limits. With a "real" screen reader, you
> will
> not easily outgrow it, because it grows with you. One can hardly say
> this
> of Guide, which is, at best, just a few self-talking applications.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
>
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