Yes, I think realistically that would work. If companies want to use visual verifications, then by all means do, but please, provide us with an alternative. Perhaps we should set up a petition, eh? On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:55:54 +0100, "John Farley" <john_farley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > Hi Chris, > > No-one is saying the visual identifications methods should not be used. > Just > that when they are there is also an alternative available for those that > cannot use the visual method. That is not beyond technology or > understanding. > > > > > Regards, John > > Contact on : (Home) > john_farley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > or : (work) > john.farley@xxxxxxxx > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of > Christopher Hallsworth > Sent: 10 June 2007 16:46 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: facebook.com - an amazing, yet partially > inaccessible, tool for blind people > > Well if we had our own ways then this would be possible, but > unfortunately due to the visual nature of this world it's near to > impossible to maybe enforce a law stating that no one, including > organizations, are allowed to use visual verification, or they could be > fined. Realistically it just wouldn't work. Hope that helps. > On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:18:42 +0100, "Colin Fowler" > <col.fowler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said: > > Nar! Personally, we'd be better off being included in all spheres of > > society, and not allowing organisations to use the > > verification system to inadvertently exclude a proportion of society that > > can not use an inaccessible authentication system. > > > > Colin > > > > > > > > Colin Fowler > > > > Disability Consultant > > > > Tel: 01582 483 283 > > > > Text/mobile: 07901 573 570 > > > > E mail: > > > > col.fowler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > www.social-model.org.uk > > > > disability@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 4:08 PM > > Subject: [access-uk] Re: facebook.com - an amazing, yet partially > > inaccessible, tool for blind people > > > > > > >I personally think we're better with an alternative yet very accessible > > > service, Zone BBS. There are no graphical verification thingies, you can > > > do everything that it has to offer without sighted assistance, and, > > > well, it's just another choice for those like you and me who can't > > > socialize very well. You can sign up at http://www.zonebbs.com. Hope > > > that helps. > > > On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:49:39 +0100, "Damon" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > said: > > >> HI all. > > >> > > >> Are there any Facebook members among you? > > >> > > >> It's a really amazing social networking site. I got myself on it last > > >> week - but had to ask someone to help me with the verification graphic > in > > >> order that I can setup an account. > > >> > > >> Now that I'm in, it's quite good. It only currently gives limited > > >> accessibility for visually impaired people though. > > >> > > >> Various important things you can do, such as Add Friends, send email, > > >> have conversations on the groups you choose to be part of, are all > > >> inacccessible now because they have recently added verification > graphics > > >> for these things too. > > >> > > >> Interestingly, if you are in the US or Canada you can get rid of the > > >> verification graphics by giving it your mobile phone number to verify > you > > >> are a real human being and not just a spammer. But it doesn't work with > > >> UK phones yet. I am thinking of calling up a mate in the US and asking > if > > >> she'll allow me to use her mobile number - though not entirely sure > this > > >> waves all verification graphics away. If anyone has any insight into > this > > >> I'd appreciate hearing from you. > > >> > > >> In the meantime, you can add to your list of friends by sitting back > and > > >> waiting for them to add you. And you can post on peoples' walls. The > key > > >> to social networking is to build those networks as they are important > > >> from friendships, business and finding like-minded people. Oh and you > can > > >> also, of course, look for partners if that's your thing. But it's a way > > >> of opening up networks, letting your friends see your mates friends and > > >> business acquaintances. > > >> > > >> You can also create and join networks. So, using a valid email address > at > > >> the company I work for, I'm now a member of their Network. I also > belong > > >> to the London network. All these things are accessible. > > >> > > >> I think this tool could be amazingly useful to blind people, especially > > >> as we find it so hard to network when at big conferences and at > parties. > > >> > > >> I believe visually impaired people are lobbying Facebook to have an > audio > > >> alternative to the captcha graphic put in place. I'm going to get more > > >> details about this. > > >> > > >> I urge you to check it out. > > >> > > >> www.facebook.com > > >> > > >> The other thing to mention is that, interestingly, everyone in my > office > > >> has become a member of Facebook and are networking like mad. So, the > fact > > >> that I can't leaves me at a disadvantage. There is currently only semi > > >> access for me but I have chosen to jump on board because it's better to > > >> be partially in than out in my circumstances. > > >> > > >> Get an account. Get looking round. It's a fascinating site. The longer > > >> you're on it, the more friends you collect, the more you get it. > > >> > > >> ...Damon > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Christopher Hallsworth > > > E-mail: chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Skype name chrishallsworth7266 > > > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > > > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > > > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > ** and in the Subject line type > > > ** unsubscribe > > > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > > > ** immediately-following link:- > > > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > > > ** or send a message, to > > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > ** and in the Subject line type > > ** unsubscribe > > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > > ** immediately-following link:- > > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > > ** or send a message, to > > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > Christopher Hallsworth > E-mail: chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Skype name chrishallsworth7266 > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > Christopher Hallsworth E-mail: chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Skype name chrishallsworth7266 ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq