Damon,I think it would make a great In Touch program to start mentioning how many staff are using this and blind people can't! Actually, if they use it ever for work purposes, that would be discrimination as well! It's about time we started doing something about the graphics. They are completely unnecessary!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Damon" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 10:04 AMSubject: [access-uk] Re: facebook.com - an amazing, yet partially inaccessible, tool for blind people
adrian i understood that linked-in has also just recently added captcha graphics?----- Original Message ----- From: "Adrian Higginbotham" <adrian.higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 9:58 AMSubject: [access-uk] Re: facebook.com - an amazing, yet partially inaccessible, tool for blind peopleLinked-in is similar and is completely accessible - it's more proffessionally focused than the current trend of social networking sites like face-book but it does work. Adrian Higginbotham Accessibility content manager British Educational Communications and Technology Agency - BECTA Tel: Direct dial 024 7679 7333 - Becta switchboard 02476-416994. Email: Adrian.Higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.becta.org.uk/ BECTA, Millburn Hill Road, Science Park, Coventry, CV4 7JJ -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Damon Sent: 10 June 2007 18:34 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: facebook.com - an amazing, yet partially inaccessible, tool for blind people Facebook isn't a chat website. And I don't have enough hours in the day to sit and relay chat with strangers, sadly.----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 4:50 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: facebook.com - an amazing, yet partially inaccessible, tool for blind peopleOh I see what you mean now. There is another possibility; how aboutirc?You could use an Irc client like Mirc and connect to a general purpose Irc channel where most but not all sighted people are on it. Hope that helps. On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 16:15:43 +0100, "Karen Burgess" <karen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> said:hi chris only one problem with this, majority of zone members are blindpeople,thus not giving you access to the mainstream sites that others use. kaz----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 4:08 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: facebook.com - an amazing, yet partially inaccessible, tool for blind people >I personally think we're better with an alternative yet veryaccessible> service, Zone BBS. There are no graphical verification thingies,you> can > do everything that it has to offer without sighted assistance, and, > well, it's just another choice for those like you and me who can't > socialize very well. You can sign up at http://www.zonebbs.com.Hope> that helps. > On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 15:49:39 +0100, "Damon"<damon.rose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> said: >> HI all. >> >> Are there any Facebook members among you? >> >> It's a really amazing social networking site. I got myself on itlast>> week - but had to ask someone to help me with the verificationgraphic>> in >> order that I can setup an account. >> >> Now that I'm in, it's quite good. It only currently gives limited >> accessibility for visually impaired people though. >> >> Various important things you can do, such as Add Friends, sendemail,>> have conversations on the groups you choose to be part of, are all >> inacccessible now because they have recently added verification >> graphics >> for these things too. >> >> Interestingly, if you are in the US or Canada you can get rid ofthe>> verification graphics by giving it your mobile phone number toverify>> you >> are a real human being and not just a spammer. But it doesn't work>> with >> UK phones yet. I am thinking of calling up a mate in the US andasking>> if >> she'll allow me to use her mobile number - though not entirelysure>> this >> waves all verification graphics away. If anyone has any insightinto>> this >> I'd appreciate hearing from you. >> >> In the meantime, you can add to your list of friends by sittingback>> and >> waiting for them to add you. And you can post on peoples' walls.The>> key >> to social networking is to build those networks as they areimportant>> from friendships, business and finding like-minded people. Oh andyou>> can >> also, of course, look for partners if that's your thing. But it'sa>> way >> of opening up networks, letting your friends see your matesfriends>> and >> business acquaintances. >> >> You can also create and join networks. So, using a valid emailaddress>> at >> the company I work for, I'm now a member of their Network. I also >> belong >> to the London network. All these things are accessible. >> >> I think this tool could be amazingly useful to blind people, >> especially >> as we find it so hard to network when at big conferences and at >> parties. >> >> I believe visually impaired people are lobbying Facebook to havean>> audio >> alternative to the captcha graphic put in place. I'm going to getmore>> details about this. >> >> I urge you to check it out. >> >> www.facebook.com >> >> The other thing to mention is that, interestingly, everyone in my >> office >> has become a member of Facebook and are networking like mad. So,the>> fact >> that I can't leaves me at a disadvantage. There is currently onlysemi>> access for me but I have chosen to jump on board because it'sbetter>> to >> be partially in than out in my circumstances. >> >> Get an account. Get looking round. It's a fascinating site. Thelonger>> you're on it, the more friends you collect, the more you get it. >> >> ...Damon >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Christopher Hallsworth > E-mail: chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Skype name chrishallsworth7266 > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > >> -- > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.11/837 - Release Date: > 06/06/2007 > 14:03 > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faqChristopher Hallsworth E-mail: chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Skype name chrishallsworth7266 ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
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