Hi Adrian, is it available from other places like Amazon, which is where I got my 1 gig version? I believe Play.com also have the one gig variety? Mandy -- Currently in Bristol / Lulsgate , United Kingdom Mostly Cloudy, 48°F(9°C) Wind:WSW (240°) at 10mph (9KT) Only in America do we have drive up ATM's with braile on them. Created by Weather Signature v1.20 ? <a href="http://www.weathersig.com";>http://www.weathersig.com</a> Mandy.Palmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Graham Page Sent: 22 January 2008 11:45 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: death of a zen stone HI Adrian. This news is certainly of interest though I must say I also had the same problem as you but managed to get a program from the Creative Website that would allow you to recover from a firmware crash like this if necessary. It was a while ago now and I don't think the program was that accessible. Certainly I think the initial screen was difficult anyway but there is a solution though this 2 GB version looks good. Cheers Graham Graham Page Home Phone: 0207 265 9493 Mobile: 07753 607980 Fax: 0870 706 2773 Email: gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: gabriel_mcbird ----- Original Message ----- From: Adrian Higginbotham <mailto:adrian.higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 9:44 AM Subject: [access-uk] death of a zen stone Hi all: my stone died over the weekend, however it did turn to my advantage in the end so read on. I nodded off listening to it one evening and couldn't get it to re start next day. assumed that battery had run down while I was snoozing so gave it a charge but it still didn't respond. the light was showing that the unit was live but I could get no sound from it. I tried a reset but nothing, and when I tried to re format the drive I couldn't. the first time I tried I got a windows error saying windows could not format the drive, nothing else which isn't very informative, and thereafter whenever I tried to highlight the drive so that I could right click it windows explorer crashed. the creative lite software didn't recognise any attached player and the drive appeared in my computer as 'removable drive' not 'zen stone'. I eventually faced facts and gave up on it. with a long train journey ahead of me early this week I instantly hit the web looking where to get the best price for a replacement and much to my delight found that creative have produced a 2 gig version of the stone which is currently half price in pc world and currys. so twice the capacity for the same £30 that I payed for the original. take care if purchasing, it's not the 2gb zen stone plus which has a screen, radio and other function that make it difficult to use, what you're looking for is the straight stone 2gb. it's identical in every respect other than a sticker on the outside of the box which says "2 gig". Adrian Higginbotham Project manager: Learning services Becta Tel: Direct dial 024 7679 7333 - Becta switchboard 02476-416994. Email: Adrian.Higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx Web: <http://www.becta.org.uk/> http://www.becta.org.uk/ BECTA, Millburn Hill Road, Science Park, Coventry, CV4 7JJ __________ NOD32 2814 (20080122) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com _____ avast! Antivirus <http://www.avast.com> : Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 080122-1, 22/01/2008 Tested on: 23/01/2008 05:47:45 avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2008 ALWIL Software.