Hi all,
I apologise for this off topic reply. I was concerned about the suggestion
made on this list that blind persons who had qualified for the rates
reduction scheme in the past would no longer qualify. I am sure some of us
, myself included, were worried about this. I have spoken to the welfare
rights section at AFBP with the following result.
There has been no court decision that is relevant to blind people. The case
referred to in an earlier posting on this list is in no way relevant to our
case.
The law has not changed.
It is still true that some councils regard the scheme to be for people with
'physical' disabilities. They find the needs of a person needing a
wheelchair or dialysis equipment etc. easier to quantify than a person
needing a room to house all there v.I. gear.
To reiterate. you must have a room that is adapted largely for the
disabled person's use. In our case the adoption is computer and other
necessary gear. It has to be in a separate room to avoid impacting others
in the household, or them impacting on us. It must not be a bedroom, i.e.
it must not contain a bed.
I spent many months fighting my local council, Woking, to get this reduction
and I would like to see everyone who may qualify also receiving it from
there local council. Be aware that some councils are more ignorant than
others.
regards
Philip Martin
Woking Disable Access Group
----- Original Message -----
From: "martin wilsher" <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 7:48 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: council tax disabled persons relief no longer
covers blind people.
the discount depends on your tax band, i recommend getting in touch with your council about this. hth Hope to hear from you soon.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham smith" <graham.smith577@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 7:45 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: council tax disabled persons relief no longer
covers blind people.
: Hi
:
: Never been aware of this, can you give me some idea of what deduction off
: our tax is given, or was given.
:
: Graham
:
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
: martin wilsher
: Sent: 20 January 2006 19:24
: To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
: Subject: [access-uk] Re: council tax disabled persons relief no longer
: covers blind people.
:
: it's all to do with this court ruling, I will ask around the rnib and afb
on
: monday to see waht can be done.
: ----- Original Message -----
: From: "Spring Flower" <spring.flower@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
: Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 6:44 PM
: Subject: [access-uk] Re: council tax disabled persons relief no longer
: covers blind people.
:
:
:: Are your council not playing ball? ours tried to put us up a band when my
:: Dad died, what the hell that had to do with the price of fish I've no
idea
:: and trust me, they regretted it when I was done with them!!
::
:: Trace
::
:: ----- Original Message -----
:: From: "martin wilsher" <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
:: To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
:: Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 5:46 PM
:: Subject: [access-uk] Re: council tax disabled persons relief no longer
:: covers blind people.
::
::
:: > Hi Derek:
:: >
:: > I think a pc is not applicable here, as it is a computer, and anyone
has
:: > this in their homes now.
:: >
:: > I will talk to someone about this, and see where I stand on it, though
: I'm
:: > prepared to lose my disabled relief as how can they tell I have access
:: > technology on my pc? it's not overtly there, so a council worker can't
:: > see
:: > it, so that's the way they work it.
:: >
:: > I will talk to rnib or Action for blind ppl shortly and see where I
get,
:: > though I don't know if I'll get anywhere with my council.
:: >
:: > thanks.----- Original Message -----
:: > From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
:: > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
:: > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:12 PM
:: > Subject: [access-uk] Re: council tax disabled persons relief no longer
:: > covers blind people.
:: >
:: >
:: > : Hi Martin
:: > : > After sending in the form, I got a
:: > : >phone call, basically telling me that a computer in a room with
: access
:: > : >technology loaded on it no longer qualified as a having equipment
:: > : >in a room specially for the disabled person, as my pc wasn't overtly
:: > : >specialist,
:: > :
:: > :
:: > : Take look here:
:: > : http://tinyurl.co.uk/ptm3
:: > : the property must have one of the following:
:: > : a room that has been modified for your, or the disabled person's sole
:: > use
:: > :
:: > : an additional bathroom, lavatory or kitchen to meet your/their needs
:: > : extra space inside the property to allow a wheelchair to be used - if
:: > the
:: > : wheelchair is for outside use only, this will not count
:: > : I would suggest ;you consult a welfare rights officer like at
: RNIB
:: > : and see if the council has interpreted the rules correctly
:: > : as you do have right of appeal.
:: > : I mean this bit is certainly open opinion:
:: > : "a room that has been modified for your, or the disabled person's
sole
:: > use"
:: > :
:: > : How doe council define the term:
:: > : "modified for your, or the disabled person's sole use"
:: > :
:: > : Regards,
:: > : Derek
:: > :
:: > : e-mail: derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
:: > :
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