Hi Barry,I agree about the layouts although all the ones I've used have a
little bump on the number 5 and do make sounds all be it very quiet ones.
Yusuf
----- Original Message -----
From: "Barry" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:48 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: chip and PIN
Although I have not had much trouble using them, I think it is bad practice
that there is not a standard layout for the keypads. Some stores have the
number one at the top left, others have the one at the top of the second
column. Also, some have a pip on the number five and some don't. Finally,
as none of them make a noise when the soft keys are pressed, I don't know if
the number has actually been pressed properly.
Barry H
----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:43 PM
Subject: [access-uk] chip and PIN
Hi SteveisI believe that if people see there is an accessible site, they sometimes assume that the main site isn't accessible, or is less accessible, whicha logical assumption, because they then wonder why an accessible site was needed at all, if the main site is less accessible.
Isn't that same sort of thinking with chip and PIN!
RNIB campaigns for chip and signature, with reason that not all the blind visually impaired are able to use chip and PIN. However, the reasoning is surly flawed because those that claim unable to use a key pad, how many of those are able to use a telephone? The point being if one is able to use telephone then one must be able to use a key pad.
I suggest the learning of layout for chip and PIN key pad, is easy if one
already knows the layout for a telephone buttons!
Of course there will be people blind visually impaired that simply don't want to use chip and PIN, but that's just as true for sighted people.
What do others think, is chip and PIN really and truly difficult to use for those with little or no sight? Regards, Derek
e-mail: derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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