[access-uk] Re: buying and selling second hand VI equipment

I am only balancing the books, and feel that other people should know, what 
a nasty bit of work he can be.
it is not "utter rubbish" "rants and trash" it is a statement of fact, but 
if you really don't like it, you don't have to read it.
so far, to my knowledge, no one else, apart from Ibby has complained, and 
especially, if Ibby is going to continue telling lies, and exaggerating the 
truth, I will continue to defend myself, unless asked by the moderators to 
stop. if you really want to stick up for him, that is your prerogative.

Simon Wilkes,
e-mail,
dj.goshawk@xxxxxxxxxxxx
skype,
dj-goshawk
windows live,
goshawk-on-horseback
goshawk-on-horseback@xxxxxxxxxx
phone, 02082200261, +442082200261 if outside of UK,
mobile, (voice or text) 07957880038, +447957880038 if outside of UK.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "orhan deniz" <orhan.deniz63@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "goshawk" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 8:34 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: buying and selling second hand VI equipment


Hi Simon,
Can you please stop posting utter rubbish like this to the list? If you
have an argument with Ibby, handle it off List. We are not to here
yourrants and trash.


Best regards,
Orhan.
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On 13/07/2008,  8:31:32 AM, goshawk
dj.goshawk@xxxxxxxxxxxx Wrote:
> get it right mate, and lets have the truth!

> 1, the only person I used bad language to, was yourself, so don't
> exaggerate! and that was only after you had given me a super hard time,
> because of a previous disagreement, that had nothing what so ever to do 
> with
> the list, you also really provoked me, so you got what you asked for!

> 2, you only started bringing in all those strings, after I left the list, 
> so
> that you could use them to settle scores with people, but give anyone else
> who asked, good reasons for doing so. no other trading list has anything
> like as many strings as the second-hand zone, so, the question that 
> springs
> to my mind, is why, when all the rest don't feel the need for so many, do
> you feel you have to lock your group down with all of these strings?

> 3, I left the second-hand zone list, of my own free will, and did not give
> you the satisfaction of giving me the boot.

> 4, I notice, that you didn't mention the incident with the skype worldwide
> list. could this be, because it would strengthen my statements about you
> carrying over disagreements? and old ones at that.

> and 5, I make these comments on list, so that other people, do not have to
> suffer your nastiness, the way I did, as soon as they have any difference 
> of
> opinion, falling out, or disagreement with you.

> Simon Wilkes,
> e-mail,
> dj.goshawk@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> skype,
> dj-goshawk
> windows live,
> goshawk-on-horseback
> goshawk-on-horseback@xxxxxxxxxx
> phone, 02082200261, +442082200261 if outside of UK,
> mobile, (voice or text) 07957880038, +447957880038 if outside of UK.


> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ibby Karbhari" <ibbyk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 9:46 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: buying and selling second hand VI equipment


> Hi Dean,
> I am writing to you off list.
> Please do not take any notice to Simon Wilks,. He is one very rude and
> abusive person and was kicked off the list for not adhering to the policy
> and for very bad language he use towards members and myself and my wife.
> That's why he now speaks of me, and damaging the reputation of the
> secondhand-zone on the way he has been doing so on the Access-IT list 
> which
> I feel that the list owners should do some thing about him.

> I simply choose to not communicate with him and/or get in to discussion on
> his comments on the list.

> I hope you will stay on the zone and hope you will tell others to come on 
> to
> the zone  and wish you happy trading.

> Kindest regards,

> Ibby Karbhari
> Tel: 020 7193 8755
> Mobile: 07017 414141 (No text messages)
> Skype Name
> IbbyKar
> Email:
> ibbyk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
> Of
> Dean Wilcox
> Sent: 12 July 2008 21:31
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: buying and selling second hand VI equipment

> I sent Ibby an E-mail with my name and country and I was put on the list 
> no
> problems.  Posts are quick to go through so it maybe, from one point of 
> view
> at least, the best way of preventing spam while letting people get on with
> trading.

> At 21:15 12/07/2008, you wrote:
>>I think, you will find, that it is the case with second-hand zone,
>>unless it has changed lately, it is invitation only.
>>
>>Simon Wilkes,
>>e-mail,
>>dj.goshawk@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>skype,
>>dj-goshawk
>>windows live,
>>goshawk-on-horseback
>>goshawk-on-horseback@xxxxxxxxxx
>>phone, 02082200261, +442082200261 if outside of UK, mobile, (voice or
>>text) 07957880038, +447957880038 if outside of UK.
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Steve Dryden" <steve.dryden@xxxxxxx>
>>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:45 PM
>>Subject: [access-uk] Re: buying and selling second hand VI equipment
>>
>>
>>That is not quite true Colin.  People are able to join themselves but
>>it is by request.  This means they can join themselves but their
>>request must be aproved by the moderator before they can send or receive
> any messages.
>>Subscription is not by invitation as this implies that only the owner
>>or moderator can invite them.
>>
>>Steve
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Colin Howard" <colin@xxxxxxxxx>
>>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 6:30 PM
>>Subject: [access-uk] Re: buying and selling second hand VI equipment
>>
>>
>> > Greetings,
>> >
>> > Wendy, Clive's post is accurate, but please be aware that Recycle-it
>> > is moderated and all messages are only posted to the list after this
>> > has been completed so can be rather slow.  SecondHandZone is
>> > unmoderated in that messages can freely be posted, but as Simon
>> > says, the guidelines are somewhat strictly observed.  For
>> > instance,you *must* include at least some information specifying
>> > whereabouts you are in the country - such as are shown in my 
>> > signature -
> but I've never had any problems with Ibby.
>> >
>> > In both cases, the lists are closed, in that you can only join by
>> > invitation hence you will not get junk emails such as have, in the
>> > past, happened on AccessUK in it's Yahoo days.
>> >
>> >
>> > Colin Howard from near Southampton in Southern England, looks
>> > forward to hearing from you.
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