I'd rather do without and enjoy the other benefits ta. (grin). Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns J&M Work-Ability jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.work-ability.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Wood (G3YXX) Sent: 26 January 2011 15:59 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: braille display The only advantage over the Alva is the functionality possible with the Perkins-style keypad. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 3:47 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: braille display I guess I'd better clarify before the vultures start hacking at me! (grin). The Focus is heavy, isn't a patch on the Alva in terms of Braille quality for long document reading, and has the most diabolical plastic tray on the back of it on which your keyboard or laptop is supposed to sit. Yes you can remove it, but it's awful. The display doesn't support Bluetooth either. Still, enjoy Will if that's what you are ending up with. Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns J&M Work-Ability jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.work-ability.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Wood (G3YXX) Sent: 26 January 2011 15:27 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: braille display Quite agree -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 3:03 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: braille display Yuck, rather you than me then!! Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns J&M Work-Ability jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.work-ability.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of william lomas Sent: 26 January 2011 12:57 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: braille display they getting me the focus 80 for work On 26 Jan 2011, at 12:52, Jackie Cairns wrote: > Hi Will > > An 80 cell display is indeed one line of Braille, and it isn't that > long because you can use keys on both ends of it to read with your > left or right hands to advance the text. An 80 cell is much better in > my opinion on a PC. > > And if you want a recommendation, go for the Alva BC680 from Optelec. > It has USB and Bluetooth, and can do all sorts of nice things like > allow you to split the display so you have a portion of it for what is > on your PC screen using USB, and another portion connected via > Bluetooth to your phone. I'm not saying you would always want to do > that, I certainly don't, but it's a feature. 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