[access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers

I don't know Eleanor where they took their degrees. I was merely trying to point out that if you make a sweeping statement like that you really should have some facts to back it up. And if you are going through disciplinary proceedings with the OU it is all the more important not to make remarks like that without evidence as anyone searching the Internet can find and read your Emails.


Good luck.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 12:05 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers


i do too but the ones I know did not get their qualification through the Open University. Did the ones you know qualify through the OU?

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From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 30/07/2009 10:33 pm

Eleanor, this is a very sweeping statement, do you have stats to back it up?
I know blind people with law degrees.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:37 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers


I actually believe that they will not pass a blind student in law. They
keep failing me in exams amd I an doing very well in assignments each year.
One year I got 40 per cent in the exam amd 72 in the assessments amd they
failed me with these grades even though my Invigilator sent in a long
report about my guide dog being very ill in the exam.

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Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers
From: "martin wilsher" <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 30/07/2009 8:05 pm

Dear Elenor:

This strikes me as if they do not want a blind student on their books, I
too, had a very similar issue with a college, I was told, you want
accessibility?  Get lost.
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
Eleanor Burke
Sent: 30 July 2009 07:53
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers

I did. She told me that there was no way she would write on my behalf.
This
sounds rather harsh on her point. I showed her the letter in which the
university made very serious allegations against me. I can assure everyone
here that the allegations are untrue but my NP said to me, there you are,
it
is all clearly stated why you have been thrown out. I do not seen to be
able
to get across to people that I an currently thrown out amd not one staff
member of the Open University has picked up a telephone to ask me what I
have to say in my defence. I an having to wait until 1 September to do
this.
I live in London. The Open University has a regional centre in London, in
Camden where I live amd yet as a blind student I have to travel to Milton
Keynes for the meeting. Now do not tell me that stinks too. I believe all
those who are going to sit on the panel must be more severely disabled
than
myself. They have offered me that I can attend the meeting by telephone
but
that would not be
 at all acceptable to me though if they wanted to arrange a video link-up
at my home I might give that some consideration. Still not satisfactory as
I
can call witnesses etc so ideally I would like to be in the same room as
everyone. I do not want to be an invisable blind student, a voice on a
telephone line. Disgusting insult.

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Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers
From: "martin wilsher" <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 30/07/2009 7:34 pm

Elinor, go to your mp with this.  This is, in the face of it, clear
discrinimation.

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of
Eleanor Burke
Sent: 30 July 2009 07:08
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers

I an very interested in this discussion on difficulty with access to
employment for disabled people. As a disabled student at the Open
University
people might be interested to know that I was suspended from the
university
on 17 July 2009 amd effectively thrown out. Did I get a Hearing? Certainly not! I got a letter throwing me out. I also got a letter from the Regional
Director of the Open University in London who gave me a final warning amd
cut off my access to communication with Open University law students.
Where
was the prior warnings? There were none. This person is going through my
file with the aim of dicipling me. All of this flies in the face of
natural
justice. My offences are as follows:
I want to know the number of students who have sat 50 per cent of the
third
level law course W 300 since its inception 9 years ago.
I want to know why Special Arrangements were not made for me as a disabled
student in the last course I did in 2008 which I failed despite having
done
very well throughout the assessments over the year.
I an firmly of the opinion that the university threw me out because they
wanted to silence me on the issue of 50 per cent re-sit of an examination.
I
discovered that students had been allowed to do this which was hush hush.
I an not now going to be able to sit an exam amd pass it this year as I an
currently out amd the way the Open University works is that assignments
have
to be put in every month. My next one is due on 12 August but I will still
be out!
I have Appealed to the Senate of the University for lifting of my
suspension. Meeting not until 1 September. There are going to be 2
students
on the panel. I wrote today saying that one of these students should be
blind, female amd the same age as myself. What do others feel? In terms of
information technology I communicate with fellow students over the
university website but they have stopped me being able to do this. I have
been unregistered amd isolated. I an a disabled student amd thrown out amd
not one staff member within the university has given me an opportunity to
speak. So from 17 July until 1 September I an being punished without a
hearing amd my chance of doing amd passing my course this year are gone. I
managed to obtain my course material electronically but only after much
ado
amd a written apology from the university. Someone wrote to the university
on my behalf about the course material in alternative format. This was
before I managed to get the material in alt  ernative format. The
university
wrote back to this Professor telling him that 2 senior members of the law
faculty visited me in my home! I had to get the Open University to write
back to the Professor to say the information that 2 staff members visited
me
in my home was not true. A total case of discrimination. I can assure
everyone that I have not had gross misconduct which I have been
temporarily
if not permanently removed for from the university. There is no guarantee
that my suspension will be lifted.

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Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers
From: "martin wilsher" <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 30/07/2009 6:04 pm

HIBarbra and all.

I am in a similar situation to will, and have gone for job interviews and
also have gone on govt schemes to help get into work. Now let me relay aa
few stories.  I went on the new deal for disabled people.  The DEA
basically
threw me at employers and said, the law says you cannot discriminate, so
employ him.  Most employers were enthusiastic until they actually had to
do
soemthing to help me over and above their usual, then they binned me,
after
about three days in one case.  Then I went on another scheme that afbp
told
me was accessible to blind.  Turned out they weren't, and that they were
in
it for the EU money.  I went in dressed in a suit, with laptop, copy of
jaws
on pendrive, for SATOGO and SA weren't known to me then, and with NRA in
hand.  I was first asked, where's your carer, then when I told them I'd
lived on my own for years, they dropped that question.  I explained about
jaws for windows, and about what it was. They wouldn't let me install it.
In the end, I had to jobsearch with my own computer.  They could not even
make the course amterials in accessible format. About the only thing this
place did was give me funding to do voluntary work with a riding stable.
Now they were meant to come to the stable to check I was actually doing
the
work, and did they?  No.  They were meant to get in touch with my boss,
but
tdid they?  No.  I spent six mmonths doing my part of the thing, while
they
did nothing.  This was another govt scheme btw, and at one point, they
tried
to claim that giving me an ethernet cable to allow me to connect to their
intrnet was accessibily, and they'd complied with the Dda because of this.
Hmm, no.  AFBP blew hot air at this company, but that was it.  And yes,
this
was new labour.  I am going for an nvq this september, and I wonder if
AFBP
will help me if I get into trouble with access?   Probably not.

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