[access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers

 i do too but the ones I know did not get their qualification through the Open 
University. Did the ones you know qualify through the OU?

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Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers
From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 30/07/2009 10:33 pm

Eleanor, this is a very sweeping statement, do you have stats to back it up? 
I know blind people with law degrees.


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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:37 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers


>I actually believe that they will not pass a blind student in law. They 
>keep failing me in exams amd I an doing very well in assignments each year. 
>One year I got 40 per cent in the exam amd 72 in the assessments amd they 
>failed me with these grades even though my Invigilator sent in a long 
>report about my guide dog being very ill in the exam.
>
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> Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers
> From: "martin wilsher" <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 30/07/2009 8:05 pm
>
> Dear Elenor:
>
> This strikes me as if they do not want a blind student on their books, I
> too, had a very similar issue with a college, I was told, you want
> accessibility?  Get lost.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
> Of
> Eleanor Burke
> Sent: 30 July 2009 07:53
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers
>
> I did. She told me that there was no way she would write on my behalf. 
> This
> sounds rather harsh on her point. I showed her the letter in which the
> university made very serious allegations against me. I can assure everyone
> here that the allegations are untrue but my NP said to me, there you are, 
> it
> is all clearly stated why you have been thrown out. I do not seen to be 
> able
> to get across to people that I an currently thrown out amd not one staff
> member of the Open University has picked up a telephone to ask me what I
> have to say in my defence. I an having to wait until 1 September to do 
> this.
> I live in London. The Open University has a regional centre in London, in
> Camden where I live amd yet as a blind student I have to travel to Milton
> Keynes for the meeting. Now do not tell me that stinks too. I believe all
> those who are going to sit on the panel must be more severely disabled 
> than
> myself. They have offered me that I can attend the meeting by telephone 
> but
> that would not be
>  at all acceptable to me though if they wanted to arrange a video link-up
> at my home I might give that some consideration. Still not satisfactory as 
> I
> can call witnesses etc so ideally I would like to be in the same room as
> everyone. I do not want to be an invisable blind student, a voice on a
> telephone line. Disgusting insult.
>
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> Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers
> From: "martin wilsher" <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 30/07/2009 7:34 pm
>
> Elinor, go to your mp with this.  This is, in the face of it, clear
> discrinimation.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
> Of
> Eleanor Burke
> Sent: 30 July 2009 07:08
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers
>
> I an very interested in this discussion on difficulty with access to
> employment for disabled people. As a disabled student at the Open 
> University
> people might be interested to know that I was suspended from the 
> university
> on 17 July 2009 amd effectively thrown out. Did I get a Hearing? Certainly
> not! I got a letter throwing me out. I also got a letter from the Regional
> Director of the Open University in London who gave me a final warning amd
> cut off my access to communication with Open University law students. 
> Where
> was the prior warnings? There were none. This person is going through my
> file with the aim of dicipling me. All of this flies in the face of 
> natural
> justice. My offences are as follows:
> I want to know the number of students who have sat 50 per cent of the 
> third
> level law course W 300 since its inception 9 years ago.
> I want to know why Special Arrangements were not made for me as a disabled
> student in the last course I did in 2008 which I failed despite having 
> done
> very well throughout the assessments over the year.
> I an firmly of the opinion that the university threw me out because they
> wanted to silence me on the issue of 50 per cent re-sit of an examination. 
> I
> discovered that students had been allowed to do this which was hush hush.
> I an not now going to be able to sit an exam amd pass it this year as I an
> currently out amd the way the Open University works is that assignments 
> have
> to be put in every month. My next one is due on 12 August but I will still
> be out!
> I have Appealed to the Senate of the University for lifting of my
> suspension. Meeting not until 1 September. There are going to be 2 
> students
> on the panel. I wrote today saying that one of these students should be
> blind, female amd the same age as myself. What do others feel? In terms of
> information technology I communicate with fellow students over the
> university website but they have stopped me being able to do this. I have
> been unregistered amd isolated. I an a disabled student amd thrown out amd
> not one staff member within the university has given me an opportunity to
> speak. So from 17 July until 1 September I an being punished without a
> hearing amd my chance of doing amd passing my course this year are gone. I
> managed to obtain my course material electronically but only after much 
> ado
> amd a written apology from the university. Someone wrote to the university
> on my behalf about the course material in alternative format. This was
> before I managed to get the material in alt  ernative format. The 
> university
> wrote back to this Professor telling him that 2 senior members of the law
> faculty visited me in my home! I had to get the Open University to write
> back to the Professor to say the information that 2 staff members visited 
> me
> in my home was not true. A total case of discrimination. I can assure
> everyone that I have not had gross misconduct which I have been 
> temporarily
> if not permanently removed for from the university. There is no guarantee
> that my suspension will be lifted.
>
> -original message-
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers
> From: "martin wilsher" <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 30/07/2009 6:04 pm
>
> HIBarbra and all.
>
> I am in a similar situation to will, and have gone for job interviews and
> also have gone on govt schemes to help get into work.  Now let me relay aa
> few stories.  I went on the new deal for disabled people.  The DEA 
> basically
> threw me at employers and said, the law says you cannot discriminate, so
> employ him.  Most employers were enthusiastic until they actually had to 
> do
> soemthing to help me over and above their usual, then they binned me, 
> after
> about three days in one case.  Then I went on another scheme that afbp 
> told
> me was accessible to blind.  Turned out they weren't, and that they were 
> in
> it for the EU money.  I went in dressed in a suit, with laptop, copy of 
> jaws
> on pendrive, for SATOGO and SA weren't known to me then, and with NRA in
> hand.  I was first asked, where's your carer, then when I told them I'd
> lived on my own for years, they dropped that question.  I explained about
> jaws for windows, and about what it was.  They wouldn't let me install it.
> In the end, I had to jobsearch with my own computer.  They could not even
> make the course amterials in accessible format.  About the only thing this
> place did was give me funding to do voluntary work with a riding stable.
> Now they were meant to come to the stable to check I was actually doing 
> the
> work, and did they?  No.  They were meant to get in touch with my boss, 
> but
> tdid they?  No.  I spent six mmonths doing my part of the thing, while 
> they
> did nothing.  This was another govt scheme btw, and at one point, they 
> tried
> to claim that giving me an ethernet cable to allow me to connect to their
> intrnet was accessibily, and they'd complied with the Dda because of this.
> Hmm, no.  AFBP blew hot air at this company, but that was it.  And yes, 
> this
> was new labour.  I am going for an nvq this september, and I wonder if 
> AFBP
> will help me if I get into trouble with access?   Probably not.
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