[access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers

  • From: "Barbara Wilson" <barkingbabs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:18:29 +0100

Hi William

Did you get my message re www.ifreelance.com?

I've got some work off them in the past, certainly way past my annual membership fee.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "william lomas" <lomaswilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 12:16 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers


yeahD i agree take any problems with each other off list
thanks though everyone for your support, particularly to barbara and tony with regards to possibly going my own way and maybe be self employed

On 31 Jul 2009, at 12:12, Barbara Wilson wrote:

Here, here. What started off as a genuinely interesting topic has decended into something personal and unpleasant. While all the sentiments expressed may have merits, the way in which they are being expressed is not in the spirit of the list.

I'll leave any further comments to the moderator as it's not my place.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Clasper" <terry.clasper@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 12:10 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers


Sad to see a great list being dragged down to this level.!



-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
william lomas
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 11:35 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers

if you have a problem with a list ember tell her off list. she has a
right to be "boring" like the rest of us if you that pissed off heard
of a delete key? i guess not

On 31 Jul 2009, at 11:32, Scott C wrote:

Also your endless emails are bloody boring and do my head in.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jackie Cairns - Email Address: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent On: 31/07/2009 11:12
Sent To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers

Hi Eleanor

I mean this with the utmost respect, but you should take your
disagreements and grievances off public lists such as this and deal
directly with the appropriate person/department.  As you are, or  were,
studying law, I do not need to remind you that publicising your
feelings
in this way on a public forum is dangerous, and has legal
implications.

I really urge you to refrain from sending Emails to any public lists
airing your views in this way.  I am not a moderator, nor claim to  do
their job, but feel you are entering dangerous waters with some of
your
comments or when reproducing information that was sent to you
privately.

No offence whatsoever intended, just a personal plea that you need
to be
careful!
Jackie Cairns
Braille Specialist
Email: jackie.cairns@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sight and Sound Technology Ltd
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 30 July 2009 07:08
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers

I an very interested in this discussion on difficulty with access to
employment for disabled people. As a disabled student at the Open
University people might be interested to know that I was suspended
from
the university on 17 July 2009 amd effectively thrown out. Did I  get a
Hearing? Certainly not! I got a letter throwing me out. I also got a
letter from the Regional Director of the Open University in London  who
gave me a final warning amd cut off my access to communication with
Open
University law students. Where was the prior warnings? There were
none.
This person is going through my file with the aim of dicipling me.  All
of this flies in the face of natural justice. My offences are as
follows:
I want to know the number of students who have sat 50 per cent of  the
third level law course W 300 since its inception 9 years ago.
I want to know why Special Arrangements were not made for me as a
disabled student in the last course I did in 2008 which I failed
despite
having done very well throughout the assessments over the year.
I an firmly of the opinion that the university threw me out because
they
wanted to silence me on the issue of 50 per cent re-sit of an
examination. I discovered that students had been allowed to do this
which was hush hush.
I an not now going to be able to sit an exam amd pass it this year
as I
an currently out amd the way the Open University works is that
assignments have to be put in every month. My next one is due on 12
August but I will still be out!
I have Appealed to the Senate of the University for lifting of my
suspension. Meeting not until 1 September. There are going to be 2
students on the panel. I wrote today saying that one of these  students
should be blind, female amd the same age as myself. What do others
feel?
In terms of information technology I communicate with fellow  students
over the university website but they have stopped me being able to  do
this. I have been unregistered amd isolated. I an a disabled student
amd
thrown out amd not one staff member within the university has  given me
an opportunity to speak. So from 17 July until 1 September I an  being
punished without a hearing amd my chance of doing amd passing my
course
this year are gone. I managed to obtain my course material
electronically but only after much ado amd a written apology from  the
university. Someone wrote to the university on my behalf about the
course material in alternative format. This was before I managed to
get
the material in alt  ernative format. The university wrote back to
this
Professor telling him that 2 senior members of the law faculty  visited
me in my home! I had to get the Open University to write back to the
Professor to say the information that 2 staff members visited me  in my
home was not true. A total case of discrimination. I can assure
everyone
that I have not had gross misconduct which I have been temporarily  if
not permanently removed for from the university. There is no  guarantee
that my suspension will be lifted.

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Subject: [access-uk] Re: action for blind people employment officers
From: "martin wilsher" <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 30/07/2009 6:04 pm

HIBarbra and all.

I am in a similar situation to will, and have gone for job  interviews
and also have gone on govt schemes to help get into work.  Now let  me
relay aa few stories.  I went on the new deal for disabled people.
The
DEA basically threw me at employers and said, the law says you  cannot
discriminate, so employ him.  Most employers were enthusiastic until
they actually had to do soemthing to help me over and above their
usual,
then they binned me, after about three days in one case.  Then I
went on
another scheme that afbp told me was accessible to blind.  Turned  out
they weren't, and that they were in it for the EU money.  I went in
dressed in a suit, with laptop, copy of jaws on pendrive, for SATOGO
and
SA weren't known to me then, and with NRA in hand.  I was first  asked,
where's your carer, then when I told them I'd lived on my own for
years,
they dropped that question.  I explained about jaws for windows, and
about what it was.  They wouldn't let me install it.
In the end, I had to jobsearch with my own computer.  They could not
even make the course amterials in accessible format.  About the only
thing this place did was give me funding to do voluntary work with a
riding stable.
Now they were meant to come to the stable to check I was actually
doing
the work, and did they?  No.  They were meant to get in touch with  my
boss, but tdid they?  No.  I spent six mmonths doing my part of the
thing, while they did nothing.  This was another govt scheme btw,
and at
one point, they tried to claim that giving me an ethernet cable to
allow
me to connect to their intrnet was accessibily, and they'd complied
with
the Dda because of this.
Hmm, no.  AFBP blew hot air at this company, but that was it.  And
yes,
this was new labour.  I am going for an nvq this september, and I
wonder
if AFBP
will help me if I get into trouble with access?   Probably not.

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