Andy - there isn't a stone 4 gb. Only a stone plus 4 gb. The plus edition have more features than the standard models which means they have a more complex user interface which includes a screen. Because there is a screen you end up having to remember menu structures and the like and I seem to recall from a post on the list some time ago these aren't always static so the same feature doesn't always appear in the same place. Haven't tried one myself so can't say that you won't be able to use it but if I were you I'd stick to the standard edition and go for the larger of the two in the range, the 2 gig. Adrian Higginbotham Project manager: Learning services Becta Tel: Direct dial 024 7679 7333 - Becta switchboard 02476-416994. Email: Adrian.Higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx Web: http://www.becta.org.uk/ BECTA, Millburn Hill Road, Science Park, Coventry, CV4 7JJ -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: 11 April 2008 16:06 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Zen Stone 4 gb access issues Hi all. I have a Zen Stone 1 GB device and love it. I'm thinking of going for the 4 GB but have been told in the past that there are access issues re this device. Can anyone please elaborate a little on these issues please. Best wishes. Andy. ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq