[access-uk] Re: ZENSTONE - IN THE EAR HEADPHONES

Well...in answer to your comments.

1.  I don't expect other people to watch out for me.

2. I don't think I'm clever, I just like listening to music and know my own limits in terms of concentration. e.g. I have the volume pretty low and sometimes switch off at certain points. I think with whatever technology comes out people are taking around with them there's added concentration needed - I'm sure there were/are some people who think using a talking satnav system such as Trekker is bad for people's concentration - yet people use it whilst using canes/guide dogs, presumably also whilst listening to their surroundings. In my view listening to music is one more thing on top; maybe for some people it's foolish, maybe for others it's not - it's just down to everyone to understand their own limitations and surroundings, we all have to draw a line somewhere and personally I choose not to draw it at listening to a bit of quiet music when I'm alert and in a familiar area.

3. I couldn't care less about looking "normal" - whatever that is - in any case I have little choice but to look "abnormal" when I'm a wheelchair user driving my chair and using a cane at the same time with one hand, and listening to a synthetic voice telling me what street I'm on.

Catherine
----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Weetman" <goatmum@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 3:54 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: ZENSTONE - IN THE EAR HEADPHONES


I can't Believe how many silly people think its clever to listen to Anything
but their surroundings whilst out walking...don't the Care about Other
people/? Think of other pedestrians who are walking along the same pavement why should You expect Them to be watching out for You? Why should you feel
entitled to give people a shock when you do something unexpected as you
maybe missed hearing something...and don't you think you probably look a
little strained with the added concentration? I prefere to look "Normal" as
possible whilst walking outdoors. CW
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Beasley" <p.beasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 1:19 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: ZENSTONE - IN THE EAR HEADPHONES


I don't know where you live, but roud here it would be extremely stupid to
contemplate doing such a thing
----- Original Message -----
From: "Catherine Turner" <catherineturner2000@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 1:13 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: ZENSTONE - IN THE EAR HEADPHONES


> Well I guess it's not ideal but I currently listen to my mp3 player and
> Trekker while using a cane; I don't have the music too loud though.  I
> reckon it's ok if I concentrate.
>
> Catherine
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sunil" <bosley20@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 4:10 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ZENSTONE - IN THE EAR HEADPHONES
>
>
>>I wouldn't do it either if I was relying on a stick to keep me safe.
But
>> one of the pros of having a guide dog is that you can be listening to
>> stuff
>> on your headphones while they guide you from A to B safely.
>> --------- Original Message --------
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: "access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ZENSTONE - IN THE EAR HEADPHONES
>> Date: 04/07/07 13:25
>>
>>
>> Hi Sunil, I've done it a couple of times before I'd have to admit,
still,
>> I
>> think that was silly of me and quite dangerous. Shan't be doing it
again!
>> :)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Amro
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sunil" <bosley20@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 12:52 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ZENSTONE - IN THE EAR HEADPHONES
>>
>>
>>>I walk down the street listening to my mp3 player frequently - >>>assuming
I
>>> know where I'm going and I'm not in unfamiliar surroundings. My guide
>>> dog
>>> is great. I tend to stop listening to pay attention when I'm crossing
>>> the
>>> road though.
>>> --------- Original Message --------
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> To: "access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ZENSTONE - IN THE EAR HEADPHONES
>>> Date: 04/07/07 11:50
>>>
>>>
>>> Surely for a totally blind person to wear headphones of any type >>> while
>>> walking in the street is extremely silly as far as I am concerned.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ian Macrae" <ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 12:40 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ZENSTONE - IN THE EAR HEADPHONES
>>>
>>>
>>> Carol, there are the Zennheizer in-ear ones which are sold by
Tapesense.
>>> Creative themselves sell a pair of in-ear noise reducing headphones.
>>> It's
>>> worth saying that these fit pretty snugly and claim to knock out >>> about
>>> 90%
>>> of ambient noise. They certainly do kill a lot of it, and for that
>>> reason
>>> may not necessarily be what a totally blind person needs or wants.
I've
>>> used them on the Tube with both the Stone and the text reader on my
>>> courier
>>> and they are very effective. But my wife is rather anxious about me
>>> using
>>> them in the street. They're sold under the Creative Zen brand and >>> cost
>>> around £40.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Carol Pearson
>>> Sent: 04 July 2007 12:26
>>> To: Access UK Mailing List
>>> Subject: [access-uk] ZENSTONE - IN THE EAR HEADPHONES
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> What headphones are folk using with the Zenstone that are similar but
>>> better
>>> quality to the Zen's supplied headphones. Ideally I need them just
>>> slightly
>>> smaller and with a bit of padding and to fit right in the ear.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions would be most welcome.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Carol
>>> carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>
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