Well...in answer to your comments. 1. I don't expect other people to watch out for me.2. I don't think I'm clever, I just like listening to music and know my own limits in terms of concentration. e.g. I have the volume pretty low and sometimes switch off at certain points. I think with whatever technology comes out people are taking around with them there's added concentration needed - I'm sure there were/are some people who think using a talking satnav system such as Trekker is bad for people's concentration - yet people use it whilst using canes/guide dogs, presumably also whilst listening to their surroundings. In my view listening to music is one more thing on top; maybe for some people it's foolish, maybe for others it's not - it's just down to everyone to understand their own limitations and surroundings, we all have to draw a line somewhere and personally I choose not to draw it at listening to a bit of quiet music when I'm alert and in a familiar area.
3. I couldn't care less about looking "normal" - whatever that is - in any case I have little choice but to look "abnormal" when I'm a wheelchair user driving my chair and using a cane at the same time with one hand, and listening to a synthetic voice telling me what street I'm on.
Catherine----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Weetman" <goatmum@xxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 3:54 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: ZENSTONE - IN THE EAR HEADPHONES
I can't Believe how many silly people think its clever to listen to Anythingbut their surroundings whilst out walking...don't the Care about Otherpeople/? Think of other pedestrians who are walking along the same pavement why should You expect Them to be watching out for You? Why should you feelentitled to give people a shock when you do something unexpected as you maybe missed hearing something...and don't you think you probably look alittle strained with the added concentration? I prefere to look "Normal" aspossible whilst walking outdoors. CW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Beasley" <p.beasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 1:19 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: ZENSTONE - IN THE EAR HEADPHONESI don't know where you live, but roud here it would be extremely stupid tocontemplate doing such a thing ----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine Turner" <catherineturner2000@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: ZENSTONE - IN THE EAR HEADPHONES > Well I guess it's not ideal but I currently listen to my mp3 player and > Trekker while using a cane; I don't have the music too loud though. I > reckon it's ok if I concentrate. > > Catherine > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sunil" <bosley20@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 4:10 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: ZENSTONE - IN THE EAR HEADPHONES > > >>I wouldn't do it either if I was relying on a stick to keep me safe.But>> one of the pros of having a guide dog is that you can be listening to >> stuff >> on your headphones while they guide you from A to B safely. >> --------- Original Message -------- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> To: "access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ZENSTONE - IN THE EAR HEADPHONES >> Date: 04/07/07 13:25 >> >> >> Hi Sunil, I've done it a couple of times before I'd have to admit,still,>> I >> think that was silly of me and quite dangerous. Shan't be doing itagain!>> :) >> >> Cheers, >> Amro >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sunil" <bosley20@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 12:52 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ZENSTONE - IN THE EAR HEADPHONES >> >>>>>I walk down the street listening to my mp3 player frequently - >>>assumingI>>> know where I'm going and I'm not in unfamiliar surroundings. My guide >>> dog >>> is great. I tend to stop listening to pay attention when I'm crossing >>> the >>> road though. >>> --------- Original Message -------- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> To: "access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ZENSTONE - IN THE EAR HEADPHONES >>> Date: 04/07/07 11:50 >>> >>>>>> Surely for a totally blind person to wear headphones of any type >>> while>>> walking in the street is extremely silly as far as I am concerned. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Ian Macrae" <ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 12:40 PM >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ZENSTONE - IN THE EAR HEADPHONES >>> >>> >>> Carol, there are the Zennheizer in-ear ones which are sold byTapesense.>>> Creative themselves sell a pair of in-ear noise reducing headphones. >>> It's>>> worth saying that these fit pretty snugly and claim to knock out >>> about>>> 90% >>> of ambient noise. They certainly do kill a lot of it, and for that >>> reason >>> may not necessarily be what a totally blind person needs or wants.I've>>> used them on the Tube with both the Stone and the text reader on my >>> courier >>> and they are very effective. But my wife is rather anxious about me >>> using>>> them in the street. They're sold under the Creative Zen brand and >>> cost>>> around £40. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] OnBehalf>>> Of >>> Carol Pearson >>> Sent: 04 July 2007 12:26 >>> To: Access UK Mailing List >>> Subject: [access-uk] ZENSTONE - IN THE EAR HEADPHONES >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> What headphones are folk using with the Zenstone that are similar but >>> better >>> quality to the Zen's supplied headphones. Ideally I need them just >>> slightly >>> smaller and with a bit of padding and to fit right in the ear. >>> >>> Any suggestions would be most welcome. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> -- >>> Carol >>> carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> >>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> ** and in the Subject line type >>> ** unsubscribe >>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>> ** immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>> ** or send a message, to >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>> >>> >>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/ >>> This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain >>> personal >>> views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. >>> If you have received it in error, 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