[access-uk] Re: Windows Live Mail over taking outlook express

Orhan,

I agree with every word of your email.

I have installed Windows Live Mail and it's really not so bad although FS must 
know about some elements that are not much accessible like the list folder / 
accounts, ETC.

I hope it helps

Moti

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: orhan deniz 
To: blindtech@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 9:44 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Windows Live Mail over taking outlook express


Evening folks,
Recently there have been some postings  to various blind technology lists about 
the Misconceptions about Windows Live mail. From what I understand, Live mail 
will only effect those using hotmail. This is because, people on Hotmail use 
the HTTP way of accessing E-mail. Microsoft, use a different protocol for 
Hotmail users to access their e-mail. For this reason, they have to switch to 
windows Live mail. Frankly, this was coming. New outlook express users could 
not use hotmail anymore with out paying for it, and Microsoft was slowly 
dropping the ball on outlook express. For those who use hotmail, you could use 
something that would use a pop3 or imap server.  This includes but is not 
limited to, gmail and other free e-mail services.

Now, Let me try and clear out some misconceptions in the blindness community. 
Firstly, windows Live mail is navigable with jaws, and probably window-eyes. 
You can certainly use it, there some focus issues but apart from that, it is 
usable. Jaws9, does, indeed, have built-in scripts for WL mail. While not 
perfect, they are functionable.  a person can use most of the keystrokes to 
accomplish what they need to in WLM mail. Composition of messages is pretty 
straight forward, except for turning off the PC cursor. 
oh, BTW, you don't have indication of weather a message is read or unread. 


Now, my opinion.
Yes, windows Live mail is usable to a certain degree with jaws 9 and maybe 
other screen readers, but I don't think it is perfect as well. I think we 
should make the gradual move to  it, and Notify screen reader vendors that this 
will be a key program in the future. outlook express is not!  and I  mean 
not!!!  just gonna die now,and as you have seen, it only effects hotmail users. 
Plus, there are alternatives, for those Hotmail users. 
I would recommend that Hotmail users try out windows Live mail. Honestly, it's 
not that bad. Now, if you don't have jaws9 or what ever, there is alternative 
e-mail services, clients etc. Don't!,  Don't,! be    afraid to try out new 
things.
For those people like me who don't use hotmail, but another e-mail service, 
stick with outlook express, imho... because there are still bugs in Windows 
Live Mail.

Kindest regards,
orhan.

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