[access-uk] Re: Windows 7 - Forewarning

Hi Martin.

They're going against the European commition's anti trust ruling, apparently feedback they got from the RTM version wasn't positive. It seems manufacturers aren't interested particularly in customizing windows for their own systems and bundling their own choice of browser. There's more info about this on CNet and the Microsoft windows 7 website.

All the best, Ibrahim.


----- Original Message ----- From: "martin wilsher" <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 5:27 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Windows 7 - Forewarning


HI Ibrahim:

I thought microsoft had a law suit against them for trying to bundle iE
eight with windows seven?  If so, why are they doing it now?

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: 10 August 2009 17:08
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Windows 7 - Forewarning

Hi George.

This doesn't sound to me like anything special. Remember when everyone had
to upgrade to Windows XP from the 9X series?  They had to get used to NTFS
over FAT which often meant a format, hardware and software didn't work after
upgrading to begin with as manufacturers were slow to release updated
drivers and patched software and innumerable problems cropped up with
internet forums and websites springing up to try and resolve them for you by
one means or other.  Perhaps more important news is that Microsoft have
pulled the European editions of windows 7 off the production line;  Anyone
who has preordered will now get the full release of windows 7 with internet explorer 8 installed, plus there will now be upgrade and full copies of the
software which brings European versions in line with the versions sold in
other territories.

All the best, Ibrahim.


----- Original Message -----
From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 2:42 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Windows 7 - Forewarning


Apologies if you see this posted on a number of lists, but if you are
considering an upgrade to Windows 7, you might save yourself some
grief by reading on at least once. I'm also as much trying to
pre-empt, and try to reduce, the inevitable number of support calls we
(in fact the industry as a whole) might get from frustrated users.

I now have a licensed copy of the RTM (Release To Manufacturing)
Windows 7 Professional. It was a 2.5 Gigabyte download by the way.

Starting with a DVD installation, the first thing I was faced with was
a screen with 2 options.  1) Check Compatibility and 2) Install
Windows 7.

Fortunately, you don't have to go out and buy Windows 7 to Check
Compatibility.  Indeed I would VERY, VERY STRONGLY advise that before
you do buy, you go to the following URL, and install the "Windows 7
Upgrade Advisor Beta".  Doubtless nearer the release date, this will
no longer be a beta.

The Tiny URL follows, plus the full URL which will undoubtedly wrap.

http://tinyurl.com/mnmj8u

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=1B544E90-7659
-4BD9-9E51-2497C146AF15&displaylang=en

Until you get a 100% clean bill of health, do not even begin to
consider installing Windows 7.

Moreover, read each and every item of the compatibility report
extremely carefully.  For example, I was told that my network card
drivers were out of date and would need to be downloaded and installed
AFTER installing Windows 7.

Being a clever dick, I figured that I may as well upgrade it first,
which I did.  Just as well I kept a copy on a USB thumb drive, because
in spite of being connected to the network and internet during the
entire install process, after the final re-boot, I totally lost
network and internet connectivity. I was glad I had that thumb drive.

A serious nasty was that I was also advised to actually REMOVE my
Microsoft Live OneCare anti virus, etc., software.  I cannot believe
that Microsoft have been so irresponsible as to not have this program
ready for Windows 7 at this stage in the game. (And see later)

Another major issue is that while it appears you have the option to
upgrade or not, in reality the only difference is that the former
takes you through a special process of transferring files and
settings.

It is NOT an upgrade in the truest sense of the word.  I have to
re-install ALL my software again.  And of course that includes your
screen reader.

So yet another warning here.  Make sure you have access to the media
for every single bit of software you wish to use, including the CD
keys.

In fact, this is where I was rather glad to have had Belarc Advisor
installed on the previous Windows XP installation.
(http://www.belarc.com) Thankfully I saved the Windows XP report, and
it is an invaluable check list and resource of information in terms of
what software I had installed, even including many CD keys.

So far, I have only installed two programs.  My company accounting
package and our braille translation software, both of which raised
issues.

The first was the accounting program, which appeared to install OK
until I went to run it, and was told it required an update.  Since the
data was on our server, that meant joining the network Domain, and
even then I battled with local security issues.  Finally I found and
turned off all User Account Control software.  That appears to have
resolved an issue where the update suddenly started looking in the
wrong place.

Strangely enough, when I went to install my braille software, it's
License Information seems somehow to have been retained, but otherwise
appears to be working O.K.

I mentioned Microsoft Live OneCare earlier.  I now get a nag message
in the System Tray telling me I have no anti-virus software.  Well
great, thanks Microsoft.  And no, I don't really want to buy one of
your suggested alternatives - unless you are prepared to give me a
refund!

And finally, for now, I was rather alarmed to find after a while of
non-use the machine had powered off.  Seems the default power
configuration is to go into hibernate mode after a period of
inactivity.  I've not investigated this as yet, but at least I know
that when I power back up again and log in, I'll be back where I was.

Oh yes, and don't be surprised if you find that Windows 7 refuses to
install because your hardware's power supply doesn't support this
feature. This occurred on the first system I tried at the weekend.

George Bell
Managing Director
Techno-Vision Systems Ltd
76 Bunting Road Ind. Est.
NORTHAMPTON, NN2 6EE, UK.
Tel: (01604) 792777
Fax: (01604) 792726
mailto:george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
web: http://www.techno-vision.co.uk

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