[access-uk] Re: What do you consider inaccessible?

Damon

Contacting websites about accessibility is an area where BCAB could be of
help to its members. While not a campaigning organisation, it is a good
technical organisation and this is certainly an area we can look at
providing support in.

Cheers
Dave


-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Damon Rose
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 2010 8:46 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: What do you consider inaccessible?

Hi there. You'll be happy to hear I'm not saying that at all! When I
said 'alternative' I was referring to the fact that there is an
alternative for graphics labelling whereas there isn't an alternative
way of viewing jumpy dynamic pages. Not suggesting we need coders to
build us a special alternative website ... Oh no. No way. 

Happily we're all singing from the same hymn sheet generally ... 

What I am saying is that we need to reach out a bit more. I think part
of the issue here is that we perhaps don't know what's going wrong with
a website and so don't feel confident in contacting the site as we can't
easily explain what's going on. 

Anyone any solutions on how to get round this? Have you ever contacted a
website if it's fatally inaccessible or badly usable for you? If not,
why not? 

Universal access is an extremely important principle that we need to
fight for in every way we can. And I'm still anxious after hearing Ed
Vasey's pronouncement that legislation isn't needed to bring about
access to products. If legislation isn't needed then there needs to be
an alternative carrot answer to this where insentives are given for
accessibility. Though I'm not sure that'll work. 

I see the Goodman's box as the first proper mainstream Freeview box.
With access to menus, information and audio description, it's taken 12
years to get here and technology is moving so fast that who knows what
the TV landscape will hold in another 12 years. I suspect we'll have
gone through another 2 platforms or generations at least by then. 

...Damon 












 

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of JLN&T
Sent: 21 July 2010 07:57
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: What do you consider inaccessible?

Hi Damon
On 20 Jul 2010, at 21:20, Damon wrote:
These jumpy dynamic web pages, on the other hand, don't appear to have
an easyalternative solution.
Should we really be seeking alternatives? We have strived for years to
be included in the mainstream society and finally, certain tech
developers are making that possible. However, wouldn't our time be
better spent educating the creators of such dynamic pages   so that we
can use the same pages as everyone else?


> at least I can label them with my screenreader if I really want to.
These jumpy dynamic web pages, on the other hand, don't appear to have
an easyalternative solution.
> 
> I'd beinterested to know from Dave why he thinks Webbie is more
accessible on this score, though? Why is it different? Sadly Internet
Explorer and Firefox are the only browsers currently available to me at
work.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Magennis" 
> <Mark.magennis@xxxxxxx>
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> Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:31 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: What do you consider inaccessible?
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>> Damon Rose wrote:
>> 
>>> I can live without header tags and alt text
>> 
>> Except where the missing alt text is on images used for major
navigation links, in which case, you won't have a clue how to get
anywhere on the site.
>> 
>> Mark
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