[access-uk] Re: What do you consider inaccessible?

  • From: "Colin Fowler" <col.fowler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:29:05 +0100

Don't! say!

----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 5:15 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: What do you consider inaccessible?


He runs it.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Fowler" <col.fowler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:23 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: What do you consider inaccessible?


may I suggest you post to the OUCH message board; the largest single disability related forum in Europe allegedly?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Damon Rose" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:11 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: What do you consider inaccessible?


So which UK organisation should one join if you want to influence this
kind of thing, Dave?





-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Dave Taylor
Sent: 20 July 2010 13:38
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: What do you consider inaccessible?

Ah yes, that'll be the American blind lobby who put their money where
their mouths are and join and support organisations, something fewer and
fewer will do here!


-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Damon Rose
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:29 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: What do you consider inaccessible?

Well as RNIB's John Godbur was quietly suggesting on this list a few
weeks ago, blind people in the UK don't shout loud enough, Colin. If we
did then legislation might happen to force manufacturers and service
providers into this. It would influence rich media creators. It strikes
me that legislation is the only way forward and there's not enough talk
about it here.

It's thanks to the strength of the US disability and blind lobby that
things like iPhone are now accessible across the world, for instance.

...Damon









-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Colin Fowler
Sent: 20 July 2010 12:28
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: What do you consider inaccessible?

I wholly agree, but I don't think that we're going to be able to
influence the reliance on rich media content; look at Jonathon Hassles
approach to this and maybe I am wrong.


----- Original Message ----- From: Damon Rose <mailto:damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 12:21 PM
Subject: [access-uk] What do you consider inaccessible?


In all my web browsing, I find that my biggest problem is
websites that make jaws freeze or whip the cursor away.

Lots of talk goes into accessibility of websites, putting in alt
text, adding header tags, but the worst sites are the dynamic ones that
have oodles of functionality and applets ... even if you don't use them
they seem to affect the readability of the page.

Usually I just want to read a page. I can live without header
tags and alt text and the other little accessibliity tickboxes like
using CSS structuring instead of tables. I can live with all that ...
but I can't use websites that jump around all over the place cos they're
loaded with fun.

What I want to know is ... is it just me? Please respond because
I'm keen to refocus the accessibility debate if I'm right.

...Damon







Damon Rose
Senior Content Producer bbc.co.uk/ouch
BBC Vision Learning

Tel: 020 8752 4427 (x0224427)
email: damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx

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