[access-uk] Re: Website preferences

Hello Bim
We have found the R N I B site not the best to navigate and even your own customer services staff have commented to us that they have problems so how do you think we as screen reading users cope.
Hazel & Kim
----- Original Message ----- From: "Egan, Bim" <Bim.Egan@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:50 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Website preferences


Hi Hazel,

Can you be a bit more specific about RNIB's own back garden pleas?

Thanks,

Bim


-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Hazel & Kim Darvell
Sent: 09 March 2011 09:37
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Website preferences

And so say all of us.
Option C for us. and R N I B need to clean  up their own back garden
first.
Hazel & Kim
----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Toner" <barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:29 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Website preferences


Hi,

On one hand cheers for asking the question, but...  Like Ian I'm
mystified
as to why our so called "Flag Ship" charity isn't just pushing for C.
The
sinic in me suggests it's an attempt to look busy by asking a 10 year
old,
(at least), question.  Not to mention after the fact of broken
accessibility and poor design on sites that the RNIB has consulted on
and
earned a silly amount of money in doing so.  Perhaps resources could
be
better spent on getting the RNIB into a position were they can enforce

accessibility and not just suggest it at a high mark-up in consultents

fees.

I make no apologies for this email being hard-line or sinical.  This
stuff
comes up over and over and over again.  It's old and pisses me and no
doubt plenty of other VI folks off.

Barry
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Iain Lackie
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 9:08 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Website preferences

surely the answer is obviously C. Design should be inclusive and I
think we
have seen too many examples of "special" sites not having all the
facilities
of the main site or not being properly maintained. I can't even see
why
the
question is being asked.

Iain

-----Original Message-----
From: Egan, Bim
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 7:29 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Website preferences


Hi,

Apologies if you see this on other lists ...

My name's Bim Egan, I'm the technical lead for RNIB's web access
team.
Web designers sometimes look to RNIB for guidance on what sight-
impaired
people need to make a site accessible.  Though we have no power to
insist that they take our advice, we want to make sure that what we
say
is right for  you and others .

Could you help us please, by saying which of the following three
options
(A, B or C) would be more likely to suit your needs?

A.  a text-only site, mirroring the main site with all its features;
or

B.  A separate, simplified site made easier for sight-impaired
people,
but with the risk of missing out on some of the features on the main
site; or

Option C: If it's possible, one website that is accessible for
everyone,
sighted and unsighted.

Option B could mean extra cost for web designers, which they may not
like to incur.  On the other hand some people who work entirely from
the
keyboard tell us that Options A and C can mean far too many key
strokes
for them.

Question:  Would it be a good idea for RNIB, as policy, to encourage
designers of the more popular or important sites  for independent
living, (grocery sites for example) to produce an option B version?

Thank you.

Bim



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