[access-uk] Re: Webbie

  • From: "James O'Dell" <jamesodell@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 23:03:44 +0100

Hi graham, don't think Webbie has much in the way of "quick navigation" at all, you can move between links and to the "page headline" which I presume is the first heading on the page, and that's about it. Brian Hartgen did a review of the old version of Webbie in an old Infotech, and comented that in his view it provided a more consistent browsing experience than the current version of the Dolphin products at that time. However, I think Dolphin have got considerably better since then, While Webbie has more or less stood stil, which is understandable given the fact that it is being pitched at a non-technical audience.

James
----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 10:34 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Webbie



Hi Douglas.

I have deleted your original message but I thought you were suggesting that
it was a good idea to use webbie with Hal. I generally thought that Webbie
was really intended for use if your screenreader would not do the job.


I find Hal's help a little erratic and I don't want to plough through a big
manual just to find shortcut keys so maybe I haven't done Hal justice but I
get the impression that it does not have the range of navigation keys that
Window-eyes or JAWS has, such as navigation by list, checkbox, combo box,
this page link, division, bulleted list etc. I believe you can navigate by
frame, table,heading or edit box however and of course you can use the
standard tab and shift tab to move between formfields/links. Am I broadly
correct here? Does Webbie have similar functionality to hal or can it move
by a wider range of element types?


Cheers

Graham


----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Harrison" <harrison1d@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 9:24 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Webbie



Graham, I am afraid that I don't understand your first question. You can use Webbie with any screen reader Hal, Window-eyes, Jaws. It is only a browser presenting web pages in a simplified text based format which beginners may find easier to work with until they have become familiar with all the special key strokes available in their screen reader. The free Thunder screen reader (due to be released in July) is specifically intended to be used in combination with Webbie for browsing I think.

Most of us are using version 6.53 of Hal/Supernova  and expect to be
able to upgrade to version 7 in July.

Douglas
On 5 Jun 2006 at 20:58, Graham Page wrote:

is the access with Webbie more reliable than that in Hal?

Do you have Hal 6?

I believe Hal 7 is either just released or about to be so.

Cheers

Graham


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