[access-uk] Re: WLAN

thanks Tristram - Can I ask some more?

So, if I understand correctly, an ethernet cable will be require to hard 
wire the PC to the Netgear router; is the cable for this the RJ45 that I've 
heard of?

If I want to use more than one device wirelessly, will I need a hub, or a 
router that has several switches on it? Is it that each item on a network 
needs it's own wireless switch on the router?

Thanks -

Andy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tristram Llewellyn" <tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 4:23 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: WLAN


| Some answers
|
| Q: Does this ethernet cable run from the router to the phone socket, or
| from
| the router to my PC?
| A: There will be a similar lead for attaching the router to the phone
| socket, but I would recommend you have an Ethernet cable as well which I
| don't think you will be supplied with the router, I don't remember what
| happened with mine.  You buy pre-made ones from PC-World with lengths to
| suit most scenarios if there isn't one.  I would never personally have
| wireless as my only link to the network directly or indirectly, wireless
| can occasionally have innexpliccable splutters and give up when you
| least expect.
|
| Q: When you say "a wireless settings section" does this mean that the
| router
| will come with a software CD, from which I can change settings, and
| create
| this SSID?
| A: It may come with a CD but you don't need to install anything, your
| router just connects over Ethernet so just plug it in.  If there is a CD
| it will probably be manuals and catalogues.
|
| Q: When you say it is built in to the router, how do I access it to
| create the
| incription?
| A: This is where the CD if any comes in handy, otherwise there willl be
| a quick setup sheet.  It will tell you how to log into the router.
| Basically you will load IE or other preferred browser.  Then you type in
| a location for the router, sometimes like 192.168.0.1 and press enter.
| Routers generally have a default username "admin" and password
| "password", the quotes are not part of the login details those.  You are
| then logged into a web page whcih you can then navigate and perform
| tasks on the router.  If unfamilier you will have to get your bearings a
| bit, one of the first things it may offer you is some kind of broadband
| auto-setup wizard so it may be handy to have the details for your
| broadband provider handily available so you can pop those in and get
| connected.  Then perhaps you can start to think about the wireless and
| encryption, you wil be able to use your screen reader commands to find
| the apropriate page on the router to deal with this.
|
| Once you have all that gong you can get the laptop or whatever to
| connect wirelsssly to the router and manage it remotely using that
| connection (with care) and will have the backup of physical conection.
|
| Regards.
|
| Tristram Llewellyn
| tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| Technical Support
| Sight and Sound Technology
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
| Of Andy Collins
| Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 2:58 PM
| To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| Subject: [access-uk] Re: WLAN
|
| Thanks Tristram, can I take some of your points and ask a bit more
| please?
|
| You wrote:
|
| "| First thing you need to do is log into your new router with an
| ehternet
|| cable.  That way you get yoour router connected to the internet with
| the
|| log in details for your supplier."
|
| Does this ethernet cable run from the router to the phone socket, or
| from
| the router to my PC?
|
| You wrote:
|
| "On the Netgears and all similar
|| routers there will be a "wireless settings" section.  Here you will
| want
|| to set up the wireless SSID (it is a name that you will need to set
| all
|| your wireless adaptors to)."
|
| When you say "a wireless settings section" does this mean that the
| router
| will come with a software CD, from which I can change settings, and
| create
| this SSID?
|
| You wrote:
|
| "The other thing you should
|| consider is getting some kind of wireless encryption going, this is
|| built into your router.  There are quite a lot of choices but only
| some
|| are realistic, WEP is broken thoroughly so the next step up would be
| WPA
|| which is secure enough and almost all laptop wireless adaptors do it
|| these days.
|
| When you say it is built in to the router, how do I access it to create
| the
| incription?
|
| Thanks for any further help -
|
| Andy
|
| ----- Original Message ----- 
| From: "Tristram Llewellyn" <tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 1:59 PM
| Subject: [access-uk] Re: WLAN
|
|
|| First thing you need to do is log into your new router with an
| ehternet
|| cable.  That way you get yoour router connected to the internet with
| the
|| log in details for your supplier.  On the Netgears and all similar
|| routers there will be a "wireless settings" section.  Here you will
| want
|| to set up the wireless SSID (it is a name that you will need to set
| all
|| your wireless adaptors to).  You could use the default whatever it
|| happens to be but there is some security risk in leaving it something
|| obvious like "netgear".  I have left mine on the default but then
| again
|| I run a full lengh fully randomised key on WPA with uPnP disabled so
|| with that I judge it to be pretty low risk.  The other thing you
| should
|| consider is getting some kind of wireless encryption going, this is
|| built into your router.  There are quite a lot of choices but only
| some
|| are realistic, WEP is broken thoroughly so the next step up would be
| WPA
|| which is secure enough and almost all laptop wireless adaptors do it
|| these days.  Usually it is a security passphrase or a string of
| numbers
|| and digits, the latter aproach up to 24 digits is good enough.  This
|| will stop your neighbours using your wireless and also keep you safe
|| from the bad guys, so it is well worth doing.
||
|| Once you have done that at the router you get started with the
| wireless
|| on the laptop machine.  You can set up a normal network connection
| from
|| "control panel" and "make new connection", the wizard should have an
|| option for creating a wireless connection where you will be asked the
|| relevant details.  Another aproach is to open the system tray and see
| if
|| there is an "Available wireless networks", open that up and see if
| your
|| wireless is broadcasting to you, when you first try to activate it you
|| will be asked for the wireless key you had set up on the router, after
|| whcih it will log you in.
||
|| Regards.
||
|| Tristram Llewellyn
|| tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
|| Technical Support
|| Sight and Sound Technology
||
|| -----Original Message-----
|| From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
| Behalf
|| Of Andy Collins
|| Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:15 AM
|| To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
|| Subject: [access-uk] Re: WLAN
||
|| Thanks Tristram - So, with a wireless router, I take it I just plug it
|| in to
|| my adapter that goes in to my phone socket, but what do I have to do
| at
|| the
|| PC end of things to make the wireless connection?
||
|| Thanks -
||
|| Andy
|| ----- Original Message ----- 
|| From: "Tristram Llewellyn" <tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
|| To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
|| Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 9:49 AM
|| Subject: [access-uk] Re: WLAN
||
||
|||I have two Netgear routers they are perfectly fine.  Belkin do some
|| good
||| cheap ones as well.
|||
|||
||| Regards.
|||
||| Tristram Llewellyn
||| tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
||| Technical Support
||| Sight and Sound Technology
|||
||| -----Original Message-----
||| From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
|| Behalf
||| Of Andy Collins
||| Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:25 PM
||| To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
||| Subject: [access-uk] WLAN
|||
||| Hi all
|||
||| At the moment, I have a Benitone router connected to my PC by USB;
|| there
||| is
||| nothing on this router that will allow me to connect a wireless
| point.
|||
||| Am I right in thinking then that a Netgear wireless router combined
|| with
||| a
||| switch is a good way to go? Are Netgear good routers?
|||
||| Thanks -
|||
||| Andy
|||
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