[access-uk] Re: Vodaphone contacts

well all I can say is you'd better believe it because it's true.  the 
problem is essentially that mobile phones have such a stupidly short life 
cycle that it is difficult for manufacturers to produce software and keep it 
accessible with the latest products.

The life cycles of phones are so short that manufacturers just don't get 
time to test them either so we get phones that have serious usability 
problems.  The N70 for example is a good phone but it has one big problem. 
the camera cover on the back of the phone sticks out and it can easily slide 
open in your pocket.  This is dealt with by putting a bit of tape on it to 
stop the cover sliding open and activating the camera, causing batteries to 
be drained.

The nokia 6630 is a good phone.  I quite like it but the media card door on 
the side is very flimsy and the way the back cover fits does not inspire 
confidence.  Also it is easy to press up or down rather than select on the 
joypad.

I could go on, but while technology is changing at this rate, mobile users 
are having to put up with shoddy products while manufacturers of access 
technology are desperately struggling to keep up.

The industery needs to slow down a little and concentrating on getting 
things right.

On this subject, does anyone really think tht TV on mobiles will be an 
instant success?  They can't even get ordinary coverage universally good but 
again it's about doing anything to get short term cash off the consumer.

regards

Graham

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirsten Edmondson" <keaedmondson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 8:22 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vodaphone contacts


I can't believe that there are only 2 phones that VF do with Talx! What
happens to all those who want a new one? is it that they only put it on two
or they only have two that it is applicable to put it on, I.E. could someone
buy a phone after checking the Talx website and finding the listed phones
and then downloading it for themselves - as I did 18 months ago after much
to-do-ing with VF about me not being able to get a new phone and not getting
hold of anyone who new about talx.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 2:28 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vodaphone contacts


> t-mobile tell me that they don't offer talks and that to install it could
> nulllify the warrantee.  I am looking further into this. as far as I am
> concerned though t-mobile is the ultimate in tokenism as they have a
> disability related helpline that can supply information on audio tape or
> in
> Braille and that seems to be about it.  nothing really that ordinary
> ccustomer services staff couldn't arrange.
>
> I am challenging them about their attitude to talks, but it doesn't help
> much when the manufacturer is allowing itself to get behind on the
> technology it supports.
>
> Nuance is a big company and there is little excuse for the fact that all
> the
> phones it works with are now virtually discontinued with the possible
> exception of the Nokia N70 and Nokia 9300.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> graham
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ian Macrae" <ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 12:52 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vodaphone contacts
>
>
> At present, Kevin, Vodafone appears to be the only game in town as far
> as providers and Talks are concerned.  Orange tell me that they're
> already giving Talks to some VI customers, but this seems to be a pretty
> ad hoc arrangement.  However, they say they hope to have it on a more
> formalised basis in the new year.  But Vodafone are actually in a
> contractual agreement with Nuance.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of kevin and emma
> Sent: 16 November 2006 12:48
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vodaphone contacts
>
> hi all, are the other mobile providers as confused as this?i'm
> considering moving over to orange, but will i face the same maize of
> dead ends and misinformation with them too?
> kevin (lord L)
> "Civilization exists by geological consent, subject to change without
> notice." - will durant
> email/msn: kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ian Macrae" <ian.macrae@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 11:09 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vodaphone contacts
>
>
> There is obviously a deal of confusion around.  I was told by the same
> guy yesterday that the communicator was available.  A colleague has told
> me that she's been offered an N73 with Talks installed by tomorrow from
> Vodafone.  My understanding is that Nuance haven't yet finished the
> re-write for that handset.  Curiouser and curiouser.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Mark Threadgold
> Sent: 16 November 2006 08:09
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vodaphone contacts
>
> Ian,
>
> Having spoken to Neil Warren, the new chap looking after Talks at
> Vodaphone, he assures me the 9500 is no longer available through
> Vodaphone at all.  The 9300 is the model they now supply with Talks.  I
> didn't ask about other models as it is the communicator I want to
> replace my 9210i.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark Threadgold
>
> Of all the things I have ever lost, the thing I miss most is my mind....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From Ian Macrae
>
> Adrian and all,
>
> I've been given to understand that a variety of handsets are available
> with Talks on a variety of tariffs.  These still include the N70 and the
> 9500.  In fact I had a Talks enabled N70 from them yesterday although
> admittedly it did take their press bod some time to get it from
> elsewhere in the organisation.
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