[access-uk] Re: Vista on a Netbook

  • From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:00:08 -0000

What is virtual machine all about? When would one use it? and how is it an 
advantage?

Thanks -

Andy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 5:11 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vista on a Netbook


| Hmm, I did get JAWS to work quite well on my XP VM. I'm not disagreeing 
with
| you at all; it's just I've played around with virtualization quite
| extensively and I find JAWS to work really well once the special tools for
| the VM are installed, such as VMware Tools for VMware virtual machines.
|
| --
| Chris Hallsworth
| E-mail: CH9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
| MSN: CH9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
| Skype: chrishallsworth7266
| ----- Original Message ----- 
| From: "Tristram Llewellyn" <tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 9:27 AM
| Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vista on a Netbook
|
|
| > The last thing you would ever want to do on a netbook is run
| > virtualisation software for the following reasons:
| > 1) A virtual machine must be given a chunk of your existing real RAM to
| > work when the VM is running.  So typically if you were to have a 2GB
| > machine you may have to give the VM maybe 512 or perhaps 1GB of your
| > system RAM whilst stilling leaving something for the host operating 
system
| > to work with.  Most netbooks don't have the RAM.
| > 2) Machine virtualisation software is still reasonably processor 
intensive
| > it is not the kind of typical task most ordinary people to whom Netbooks
| > are marketed are doing right now.
| > 3) Virtualisation per se is not without its problems either and most if
| > not all Access Tech (and even mainstream developers) will generally not
| > support their products on VMs.
| >
| > If you must use VISTA find a none to expensive laptop that does it. 
There
| > are still smaller machines that are not as scaled down as Netbooks that
| > would taks VISTA around.
| >
| >
| > Regards.
| >
| > Tristram Llewellyn
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| > -----Original Message-----
| > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
| > Of Negoslav Sabev
| > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 6:39 PM
| > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vista on a Netbook
| >
| > Yes, but don't virtualize on the netbook, because if you have 1gb ram, 
it
| > won't let you run vista, cause you need to give the virtual machine at
| > least
| > 1gb, and you have only one gb, and it's used by your real computer. The
| > virtual machine uses your real ram and hard drive space for storring the
| > virttual hard disks.
| >
| > Negoslav
| >
| >
| > ----- Original Message ----- 
| > From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 8:49 PM
| > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vista on a Netbook
| >
| >
| >> Yes. Vista would be too slow for 1 GB of RAM, even if it's the 
recommend
| >> amount. 2 GB is excellent for best results. Also, he could run
| >> virtualization software and create a virtual machine and operate Vista
| >> that way. Actually, virtualization is strongly recommended since you
| >> don't
| >> need to think about hardware and software requirements like you would
| >> have
| >> to if you were installing Vista for real.
| >>
| >> --
| >> Chris Hallsworth
| >> E-mail: CH9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
| >> MSN: CH9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
| >> Skype: chrishallsworth7266
| >> ----- Original Message ----- 
| >> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 5:09 PM
| >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Vista on a Netbook
| >>
| >>
| >> Maybe you will be able to use Vista but the guy in Curry's said to me
| >> that
| >> Vista would be too slow on the NC10.  Maybe he meant with the 1GB RAM.
| >>
| >> Eleanor
| >>  ----- Original Message ----- 
| >>  From: Saqib
| >>  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>  Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:45 PM
| >>  Subject: [access-uk] Vista on a Netbook
| >>
| >>
| >>  Hi. Is it possible to install Vista on a netbook? I'm thinking of
| >> getting
| >> a netbook and want to use Vista on it. I know I'll have to increase the
| >> RAM to 2GB to get a decent performance out of it but I don't know if
| >> these
| >> Netbooks are built to have Vista installed on them. I will be browsing
| >> for
| >> a netbook and the Samsung NC10 will be amongst my thoughts. I think it
| >> will be a toss up between the NC10 and the Advent 4213 which is a 
mobile
| >> broadband netbook as it has a simcard slot. Both machines are priced 
the
| >> same at £322.96.
| >>
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