[access-uk] Re: Visa CodeSure
- From: Catherine Turner <catherineturner2007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:27:27 +0100
Hi Ed,
Yes, it will be interesting to see what they say about the mobile
applet. My question was slightly tongue in cheek, as I know what the
general term "mobile applet" means but the way they threw it in there
sounded very casual and they didn't explain it at all.
I do feel concern about this, as just because (as Visa says we should
in their e-mail) customers let their banks know their needs, does not
mean the banks meet them; and the availability of the technology will
lead to more banks taking it up, and possibly at some stage things
becoming very difficult if you can't use the technology. They should
be proactive in developing alternatives rather than just leaving it to
customers letting their banks know they can't use the methods and/or
leaving it up to individual banks.
Catherine
On 7/23/10, Edward Green <edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Catherine,
>
> It's something that you install on your mobile phone. If it's to have any
> applicability in this context or be of any use for us, it sounds as though
> the accessible alternative being proposed by Visa Europe requires us to have
> mobile phones with speech solutions installed as a minimum.
>
> I also don't know if this solution would have implications for authorising a
> transaction over the phone, e.g. if you were calling from the phone on which
> the applet was installed.
>
> It's something I'll ask in my follow up email to Visa Europe next week.
>
> Ed
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Catherine Turner
> Sent: 23 July 2010 00:46
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Visa CodeSure
>
> What's a mobile applet when it's at home?
>
> Catherine
>
> On 7/22/10, martin wilsher <m.wilsher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> all they need do is open the existing card readers that talk up to the
> visa
>> cards etc. then they would work ok, as the card reader would talk other
>> than the card itself.
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
>> Amro Bilal
>> Sent: 22 July 2010 20:51
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Visa CodeSure
>>
>>
>> Hi Edward,
>>
>> As I thought. They will just allow us to continue using our normal Chip
> and
>> Pin cards. I reckon making this new Visa SureCard talks is tricky without
>> spending a lot of money on developing and manufacturing. If my bank
> decides
>> to let me carry on using my old Visa card I will probably understand their
>> decision. I would be somewhat disappointed though because this new system
>> sounds most advanced and secure as I said in an earlier post.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Amro
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Edward Green <mailto:edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2010 6:38 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Visa CodeSure
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I post below the reply I received from Visa Europe about Visa CodeSure.
>>
>>
>>
>> For those of you who missed the thread, you can read more at
>>
>>
>>
>>
> http://www.visaeurope.com/en/newsroom/news/articles/2010/visa_codesure_gets_
>> green_light.aspx
>>
>>
>>
>> Ed
>>
>>
>>
>> "Dear Edward,"
>>
>>
>>
>> "Thank you for your enquiry about Visa CodeSure."
>>
>>
>>
>> "We are acutely aware of the issues that people with a disability
> encounter
>> and we spend a lot of time discussing their needs when we're developing
> new
>> products."
>>
>>
>>
>> "Equally we are constantly looking at innovative ways to deliver the most
>> secure payment products, however, not all will be suitable for everyone."
>>
>>
>>
>> "Visa CodeSure is currently ready for commercial launch having been
> piloted
>> in a number of markets, however, it is not intended for all bank
> customers.
>> As the authentication application (the keypad functionality on the payment
>> card) may not be accessible for all, a mobile applet is in development and
>> will be available through our members (banks and card issuing providers)
> for
>> customers who have accessibility problems. It is important that customers
>> with accessibility / disability restrictions let their banks know so that
>> they can be provided with the most appropriate products that accommodate
>> their needs."
>>
>>
>>
>> "I hope that this goes some way to clarify our position."
>>
>>
>>
>> "Thank you for your interest."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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