[access-uk] Re: Victor Reader Stream Companion software availability
- From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:41:44 -0000
Steve, tend to agree about spoon feeding and its undesirableness.
Still, I know full well there are plenty who simply won't learn the basics of
file management and, of course, HumanWare and particularly it's Keysoft
environments, recognize's that a whole lot of people aren't going toknuckle
down and learn Windows file management. So, no matter how much we might
deplore it, blind-frienldy environments in one guise or another are going to
persist.
On that subject, I wonder if anyone has heard last week's Main Menu where a
friendly utility for file management is described. the second part of Main
Menu deals with audio editors and is quite interesting too.
Cheers,
From Ray
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-----Original Message-----
Steve Nutt
Hi Ray,
I haven't tried the time jump thing too much.
I agree about the transfer, but I am not one for spoon feeding people. I would
sooner they learned to transfer using copy and paste, but I created the batch
file because the folders required are not necessarily memorable to everyone,
and it at least prepares the card.
If you want to modify it, be my guest.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Ray's Home
Sent: 28 October 2007 12:45
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Victor Reader Stream Companion software availability
Steve, the possibility of a batch file to do this did flit through my mind,
though some time since I've written batch files.
Certainly as supplied the SD card in the machine does contain the $VRNOtes
folder so that could throw up an error message to throw some people.
Trouble is though that not only do you have to create the folders to accomodate
DAISY books, other books, music, and text files, you also have to create
folders beneath those to take the various DAISY books you might transfer, and
also folders in nested within the other folder types to facilitate navigation
between different material on the book shelves. (I the notes folder might be
created automatically when you start recording memos etc into the Stream.)
If I could coax my brain into using the batch language again, I'm sure it might
be possible to go further still in actually transfering files, but I don't
think I'm up to it.
All that said, I will try out your batch file soon.
Just a pity the companion software wasn't ready to go earlier this month as I
guess a few people must be finding the process of transfer a bit daunting.
Finally, and I might pose this question separately, but is it possible to skip
by 5, 10 or 15 minutes in a none DAISY file on the Stream? Recordings I've
placed in none-DAISY folders don't seem to let me do this. Or is it that I've
not understood the menu settings properly?
Cheers,
From Ray
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> -----Original Message-----
Steve Nutt
Hi Ray,
>
>I haven't heard that it is released yet, but I would have thought you could
>make a batch file to ease the process. I haven't made such a batch file yet,
>but I'll try to do it off the top of my head and present it here. Bear in
>mind, this is not guaranteed to work yet, but I'll give it to you for
>experiment. At your own risk of course.
>
>Firstly, one piece of requisite knowledge is needed, and that is the
>drive letter, to which the Stream is assigned when it is connected.
>Once we know that, we can incorporate the letter in the run command.
>So let's call our batch file vrstream.bat, and let's assume that the
>drive letter is E:. If not substitute it for the correct one. The way
>you will run the batch file is to do the following:-
>
>1. Press Windows+R to get to the Run menu.
>
>2. Type "c:\utils\vrstream e:" without the quotes, assuming that we save the
>batch file into a folder called utils, see below..
>
>This will create all the subsequent folders on drive E:, if it works correctly
>on your system. If you type for example "c:\utils\vrstream f:", then the
>folders will be created on the F: drive. If you want to try it first without
>the stream, then put c: in the drive part, and the folders will be created on
>your hard disk. Note, this will also work with a memory card connected, so
>you could run this batch file on your memory card, then pop the card into the
>stream, and all the folders will be on the card and ready to go.
>
>The only problem you have now Ray, is to teach the person to copy the files
>into the correct folders.
>
>Now to create the batch file itself.
>
>1. Open Notepad, by going to Windows+r again, and typing "notepad€ without
>the quotes.
>
>2. Now paste the following few lines, from the line that reads @echo
>off, to the line that reads echo "Finished processing" inclusive into
>Notepad:-
>
>@echo off
>echo "Victor Stream Folder Creator"
>echo "By Steve Nutt"
>echo "Version 1.0"
>echo "Please make sure that your Victor Stream or memory card reader is
>connected"
>echo "creating folders, please wait!"
>md %1\$vrdtb
>md %1\$vrmusic
>md %1\$vrnotes
>md %1\$vrotherbooks
>md %1\$vrtext
>echo "finished processing"
>
>*End Of Batch File*
>
>There is no error trapping in this batch file yet, in other words, if one of
>those folders exists, then I think you will get an Access Denied message, and
>the batch file should carry on to create the other folders. Also, I don't
>think I have missed any folders but anyone can easily revise this batch file,
>by adding "md" lines. All the lines that begin "md" mean "Make Directory".
>The %1 variable must be included, so that when someone types vrstream e:, %1
>is translated to the drive letter that they type.
>
>So, having copied this info to Notepad, just save it into a folder that is
>easy to reach. I use c:\utils. Create the folder if it doesn't exist.
>
>I just tried this on my machine, and it worked, so here's hoping. If it does
>work, then you are welcome to pass it on. If not, then I am sorry <Smile>.
>If it doesn't though, do let me know.
>
>Thanks.
>
>All the best
>
>Steve
>
>
>
>From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>Ray's Home
>I've been prompted to ask if anyone here knows if the Companion
>software mentioned briefly in the Victor Reader Stream tutorial is in
>fact available yet. (This due to the fact that someone's emailed me
>trying to figure out how to arrange folders and transfer music and book
>material to the Stream, but they are coming unstuck - in spite of, or
>maybe because of my attempts to help! (LOL)>
>
>I imagine this software might be a sort of wizzard that breakes the process
>down into easy steps. I've found the transfer process pretty painless, but if
>you aren't used to managing folder structures and getting to grips with the
>conventions the Stream has to use to make navigation so convenient, then you
>are going to be thrown by the process.
>
>Cheers,
>
>From Ray
>I can be contacted off-list at:
>mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
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