[access-uk] Re: Uses for Bluetooth and GPS equipped mobile phones

Hi,

I'm wary of this too.  I don't know enough about bluetooth but the
fact that settings can be installed/configured simply by opening a
text message makes me unwilling to accept bluetooth connections apart
from ones I set up myself.  My phone is far more important to me than
overpriced undertastey railway food or whatever the original idea
was...

Catherine

On 1/31/08, Steve Nutt <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> A well written virus can easily bypass the install dialog, so once you have
> downloaded it, that's it.  Be careful folks.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Ankers, Dave (UK)
> Sent: 31 January 2008 08:27
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Uses for Bluetooth and GPS equipped mobile phones
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> The fact is there will always be some sad git out there getting pleasure
> from writing viruses etc.  We cannot let them win, and need to use common
> sense.  If the train company has a menu available for download by Bluetooth,
> then if after downloading, your phone starts asking whether or not you want
> to install programs etc, then it is obviously not the simple text menu, you
> were expecting and so delete it.  The same goes for using the internet,
> never ever open or run anything that doesn't seem right or you haven't asked
> for.
> There are some who attach their messages to the emails they send to the
> list, well sorry but I for one never open such messages, they pose too big a
> risk, and I cannot be bothered having to save the file to my pc and run a
> virus check, which might not find a new virus.
> Personally I would punish anyone court writing viruses by smashing their
> fingers and toes with a sledge hammer!
> These swine's are just ruining what could be a very useful aid for the
> blind.
>
> Dave
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> That would be a big security hole in my view.  If you are asked if you want
> to download something by Bluetooth and you don't know it is going to come,
> don't accept it.  It could be a Symbian or Windows Smart Phone virus.  I
> have had that very thing happen to me on a train, when I left Bluetooth on
> once by accident.  I said no to the connection, but I sure wouldn't like
> this method to be widely adopted.  It could encourage all kinds of malice,
> and Bluetooth isn't secure anyway.  I even heard of a program that can
> hijack all your contacts from your phone, just because you left Bluetooth
> on.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Ankers, Dave (UK)
> Sent: 30 January 2008 15:36
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Uses for Bluetooth and GPS equipped mobile phones
>
>
> This  thread is a carry over from the off track virgin train saga.
>
> Seems easy to me, walk in a Shop, Restaurant, Train, Hospital even, and
> receive a message asking if you would like to download a file by Bluetooth.
> It could be a list of items on special offer, a menu or even directions in
> order to get to the department you want in a hospital or any other large
> building.
> Take it a stage further and install transmitters in buildings, that your GPS
> or GPRS, whatever the difference is. can use to direct you to where you wish
> to go.
>
> Dave
>
> There are ways to send messages to any Bluetooth devices in an area.
> Some companies already experimented with this by sending advertisements to
> any Bluetooth devices. For example when I went to see snow patrol in the o2
> arena when I turned Bluetooth on my phone I got sent some messages about
> other events that they thought might interest me by o2.
> Vanja
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 1:32 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: The Virgin Trains thread that went off track!
>
>
> > Scuse my ignorance on wireless communication, but Dave suggests using
> > Blue Tooth as a means of getting menus, passenger info, etc. to
> > passengers, and in the context of our needs.
> >
> > Would this actually be Blue Tooth, or maybe Wi-Fi?  Either way, if it
> > would work, then seems a good idea to me;  but am I missing something
> > here?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >>From Ray
> > I can be contacted off-list at:
> > mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Ankers, Dave (UK)
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: The Virgin Trains thread that went off track!
> >
> >
> >
> > Please accept my apologies too.  Will try to stay on topic, only life
> > would be so boring without a bit of harmless banter and imagination.
> > Back on topic, hands up all those who own a phone equipped with
> > Bluetooth! yes loads of you, well, what if the train companies and
> > many other companies for that matter, made available Bluetooth
> > downloads of menus and other services so you could hear them through
> > your phone, and it cost nothing.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > My sincere apologies everyone for the banter between a few of us
> > today, of which I was a part, that went off track in the midst of a
> > thread about Virgin Trains.  Nice though it is to share a bit of
> > harmless fun on an otherwise extremely dreary day, I appreciate this
> > is a list for access technology and, as such, should remain on topic
> > at all times.
> >
> > Hands up! sorry! (smiles).
> >
> > Jackie
> >
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