Hi Ray, I've not actually been able to get down to any sort of costing, but I do know for sure that the CD printing process puts down less ink than paper, simply because the CD surface doesn't absorb the ink like paper does. If I didn't have to print so many CDs for work purposes, I'd do much more Lite-Scribe, but at around 8 - 10 minutes as opposed to 2-3 minutes for ink print, I mostly use ink. There is another issue with these two printers aside from the duplex functionality. We use Royal Mail's Smartstamp software for all our office letters and postage generally. The Canon is extremely good for envelope printing, and can take 10 or more at a time. The Epson only seems to be able to take 2 or 3 at most. The other unfortunate thing is that the CD label files are not interchangeable between printers, so if you design one using Epson's software, you can't print it on the Canon, and vice versa. I've only just got Nero 8, so don't know yet if that can accommodate either printer's CD print function. I certainly never figured it out with Nero 7. George. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray's Home Sent: 13 January 2008 22:30 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Usability of Printers to print direct to CD George, thanks for your useful reply on this. I can see a bit and might even put an elderly version of Zoomtext on my computer to help with the graphical interface - or some other mag aid. I note your comments on the alignment on the printer Cd tray, and I'm hopeful I can get around this. Wonder if you've a good idea of the costs involved - (and I do very much go for the multi-colur approach.) I've always liked Epson printers, but there's indications these days they're getting expensive for ink. Does Canon compare favourably on this count do you know? How does Light Scribe compare too cost-wise? I understand it is quite slow, but as you say, impressive. My choice wil most likely though come down to Epson or Canon, but its nice to try and make an informed choice. Thanks again. Cheers, From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- George Bell Subject: [access-uk] Re: Usability of Printers to print direct to CD Hi Ray, I have two printers which can print CDs. An Epson Photo R300 and a Canon Pixma IP4200. Both come with software, but it does tend to be fairly graphical, so you may need someone to help you with the design. Actual printing requires inserting the CD into a special holder, and then placing the holder into the printer in a specific way, and lined up to special marks. With a minimum of modification to add tactile marks, it's quite doable. I chose those printers because they use separate ink tanks for the colours. The Canon has two blacks and three colour tanks, the Epson has Black, Yellow, Light & dark Magenta and Light & dark Cyan. From my sighted perspective, the Epson software is better, but the printer will only print into paper single sided, where the Canon is a Duplex. Both cost under £100, and in my view are/were excellent value. I also have a Philips Lite-Scribe CD/DVD burner which, together with Nero, prints directly on to special Lite-Scribe CDs and DVDs. It's produced a greyscale image onto a gold coloured surface, and actually looks quite snazzy. George. _____________________________________________ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray's Home Sent: 13 January 2008 21:27 To: Access-Uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Usability of Printers to print direct to CD Maybe a little off-topic, but I wondered if anyone has bought a printer able to print directly onto printable Cds? I'd like to know if the printers come with software to allow this to be accomplished with the minimum of alignment etc. In other words I'm after an easy solution to making a good job of printing directly on printable CDs. Makes and models greatly appreciated, and off-list replies welcomed if it is thought a bit OT here. Thanks. 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