Hello, I spent tonight with one of the "tech" guys at the college, with regard to the laptop running JFW9 and IE8. He had installed the version of JFW onto an Acer laptop. It did the same thing in Internet Explorer, just reading... "open parent document" and not allowing access to the menus. I mentioned the update, as discussed on list. The problem laptops were running JFW 9.0512 or somesuch and the laptop with no problems was running JFW 9.02 something. He downgraded the version of JFW to the same as the other, and it works perfect!!! How Queer! Thanks to all, may be useful in future. Regards, Mike