Saqid - I thought you were using a netbook? If it's possible to have full web browsing and audio streeming, with good processor speeds, a UMPC would be very attractive, especially with a Bluetooth fold away keyboard; are they more expensive than laptops I wonder - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Saqib" <saqib500@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 7:35 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultra Mobile PCs |I think the reason for people still going for laptops is because they can | handle more rigorous usage. I personally wouldn't want to use a Ultra Laptop | for no more than 2 hours at a time. | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 7:31 PM | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultra Mobile PCs | | | > Hi Steve - This sounds a good way to go for portability then, why are | > people | > still going for laptops I wonder? - | > | > Andy | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 6:33 PM | > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultra Mobile PCs | > | > | > | Hi Andy, | > | | > | Yes, it does. | > | | > | All the best | > | | > | Steve | > | | > | -----Original Message----- | > | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf | > Of | > | Andy Collins | > | Sent: Tuesday 26 August 2008 18:14 | > | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultra Mobile PCs | > | | > | Steve - Does JFW work then on these UMPCs? - | > | | > | Andy | > | ----- Original Message ----- | > | From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > | Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 3:41 PM | > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultra Mobile PCs | > | | > | | > || Hi Andy, | > || | > || I've no idea, I don't use it. | > || | > || All the best | > || | > || Steve | > || | > || -----Original Message----- | > || From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On | > Behalf | > | Of | > || Andy Collins | > || Sent: Tuesday 26 August 2008 10:21 | > || To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > || Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultra Mobile PCs | > || | > || Steve - Is there a steep learning curve with Linnux? Is it very | > different | > | to | > || | > || Windows? - | > || | > || Andy | > || ----- Original Message ----- | > || From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > || To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > || Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 7:39 AM | > || Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultra Mobile PCs | > || | > || | > ||| Hi, | > ||| | > ||| Linnux has a dedicated screen reader called Speakup. If you download | > the | > ||| Ubuntu distribution, it can even speak the installation process. | > ||| | > ||| All the best | > ||| | > ||| Steve | > ||| | > ||| -----Original Message----- | > ||| From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On | > Behalf | > || Of | > ||| Saqib | > ||| Sent: Monday 25 August 2008 20:49 | > ||| To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > ||| Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultra Mobile PCs | > ||| | > ||| Hi Steve what speech program can you use with Linux. I was told that | > | Linux | > ||| doesn't support the current market of speech programs. | > ||| ----- Original Message ----- | > ||| From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > ||| To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > ||| Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 8:23 PM | > ||| Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultra Mobile PCs | > ||| | > ||| | > ||| > Hi Barry, | > ||| > | > ||| > XP Home or Linux. Both of which will of course, talk. | > ||| > | > ||| > All the best | > ||| > | > ||| > Steve | > ||| > | > ||| > -----Original Message----- | > ||| > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On | > | Behalf | > ||| > Of | > ||| > Barry G | > ||| > Sent: Monday 25 August 2008 17:30 | > ||| > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > ||| > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultra Mobile PCs | > ||| > | > ||| > Do you know what operating system it's using, and will it run a | > screen | > ||| > reader? | > ||| > | > ||| > All the best, | > ||| > Barry G | > ||| > ----- Original Message ----- | > ||| > From: "Dean Wilcox" <wilcoxdean@xxxxxxxxxxx> | > ||| > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > ||| > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 5:25 PM | > ||| > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultra Mobile PCs | > ||| > | > ||| > | > ||| >>I am surprised the Asus EEE mobile PC isn't getting more of a | > mention. | > ||| >>Its | > ||| > | > ||| >>a mobile PC like we're discussing here but the hard drive is flash | > || based. | > ||| >>It only has a 4 or 8 GB drive depending on model but you can use SD | > || cards | > ||| >>to boost this. This makes it quieter and the battery life is over 3 | > ||| >>hours, | > ||| > | > ||| >>I'm sure I heard 3.5. | > ||| >> | > ||| >> At 16:48 25/08/2008, you wrote: | > ||| >>>Hi Steve, | > ||| >>> | > ||| >>>"I have just ordered the MSI Wind, primarily because it has a | > slightly | > ||| >>>more gutsy processor than the Advent on it..." | > ||| >>> | > ||| >>>Hmmm, from what I read the MSI Wind and the Advent are the same. | > The | > ||| >>>reviews say that the Advent is the MSI Wind only repackaged under a | > ||| >>>different brand name for UK market and sold by PC World. It worth | > ||| >>>mentioning that the new EEEPC is using the Atom Intel processer | > too. | > ||| >>> | > ||| >>>Cheers, | > ||| >>>Amro | > ||| >>> | > ||| >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" | > <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > ||| >>>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > ||| >>>Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 2:31 PM | > ||| >>>Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultra Mobile PCs | > ||| >>> | > ||| >>> | > ||| >>>>Hi Saqib, | > ||| >>>> | > ||| >>>>I have just ordered the MSI Wind, primarily because it has a | > slightly | > ||| >>>>more | > ||| >>>>gutsy processor than the Advent on it. Also, I read in reviews | > that | > || the | > ||| >>>>fan | > ||| >>>>on the Advent is a bit noisy. Is this true? | > ||| >>>> | > ||| >>>>All the best | > ||| >>>> | > ||| >>>>Steve | > ||| >>>> | > ||| >>>>-----Original Message----- | > ||| >>>>From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On | > || Behalf | > ||| >>>>Of | > ||| >>>>Saqib | > ||| >>>>Sent: Monday 25 August 2008 12:56 | > ||| >>>>To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > ||| >>>>Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ultra Mobile PCs | > ||| >>>> | > ||| >>>>Hi Andy I have the Advent 4211 10 inch mini laptop. It has XP HOme | > | and | > ||| >>>>1GB | > ||| >>>>RAM and 80 GB hard disk space. Battery life will be around 1 hour | > and | > || 40 | > ||| >>>>mins roughly. It has 3 USB ports and the fan vents are on the left | > || side. | > ||| >>>>I | > ||| >>>>run System Access which is my preferred screen reader and I think | > | Jaws | > ||| >>>>will | > ||| >>>>run nicely on the machine. I will run a demo on the machine later | > to | > || see | > ||| >>>>if | > ||| >>>>Jaws does run properly. This laptop is for £279.99 from PC World | > and | > ||| >>>>Currys. | > ||| >>>> | > ||| >>>>I'll let you know how the Jaws experiment went. | > ||| >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Collins" | > ||| >>>><andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > ||| >>>>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > ||| >>>>Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 12:46 PM | > ||| >>>>Subject: [access-uk] Ultra Mobile PCs | > ||| >>>> | > ||| >>>> | > ||| >>>>>Hi all - | > ||| >>>>> | > ||| >>>>>Will JFW run under the OS on UMPCs? I don't know anything about | > || UMPCs, | > ||| >>>>>but | > ||| >>>>>they look to be a more handy alternative to a laptop? I don't | > know | > ||| >>>>>what | > ||| >>>>>OS | > ||| >>>>>systems UMPCs use, so I'd be interested if anybody has any | > | experience | > ||| >>>>>of | > ||| >>>>>using one, what kind of features they offer etc, but this of | > course | > || is | > ||| >>>>>only | > ||| >>>>>relevant if JFW runs ok! - | > ||| >>>>> | > ||| >>>>>Andy | > ||| >>>>> | > ||| >>>>>** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | > ||| >>>>>** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | > ||| >>>>>** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | > ||| >>>>>** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > ||| >>>>>** and in the Subject line type | > ||| >>>>>** unsubscribe | > ||| >>>>>** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | > ||| >>>>>** immediately-following link:- | > ||| >>>>>** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | > ||| >>>>>** or send a message, to | > ||| >>>>>** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | > ||| >>>>> | > ||| >>>>> | > ||| >>>>>No virus found in this incoming message. | > ||| >>>>>Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com | > ||| >>>>>Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1632 - Release Date: | > ||| >>>>>25/08/2008 | > ||| >>>> | > ||| >>>>>07:05 | > ||| >>>>> | > ||| >>>>> | > ||| >>>> | > ||| >>>>** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | > ||| >>>>** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | > ||| >>>>** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | > ||| >>>>** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > ||| >>>>** and in the Subject line type | > ||| >>>>** unsubscribe | > ||| >>>>** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | > ||| >>>>** immediately-following link:- | > ||| >>>>** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | > ||| >>>>** or send a message, to | > ||| >>>>** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | > ||| >>>> | > ||| >>>> | > ||| >>>> | > ||| >>>>** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | > ||| >>>>** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | > ||| >>>>** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | > ||| >>>>** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > ||| >>>>** and in the Subject line type | > ||| >>>>** unsubscribe | > ||| >>>>** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | > ||| >>>>** immediately-following link:- | > ||| >>>>** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | > ||| >>>>** or send a message, to | > ||| >>>>** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | > ||| >>>> | > ||| >>> | > ||| >>>** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | > ||| >>>** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] | > ||| >>>** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: | > ||| >>>** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > ||| >>>** and in the Subject line type | > ||| >>>** unsubscribe | > ||| >>>** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the | > ||| >>>** immediately-following link:- | > ||| >>>** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] | > ||| >>>** or send a message, to | > ||| >>>** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq | > ||| >>> | > ||| >>> | > ||| >>> | > ||| >>>-- | > ||| >>>No virus found in this incoming message. | > ||| >>>Checked by AVG. 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