I am not sure, but arn't the notes issued by the various scottish banks the same size as the ones issued by the bank of England. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:34 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Trust me with your change
Hi Marc.Yes, I've heard of this technique, but up here in Jock-Land, we also have Bank of Scotland, Royal bank of Scotland, Clydesdale bank and others. Bring on the Euro standard.Andy----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Threadgold" <m.j.threadgold@xxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:09 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Trust me with your changeAndy, To try and be useful, the way I check notes is to fold them over my index finger.The width of a five pound note means the edge reaches the start of my fingernail. A ten will reack the middle of the nail, and the width of a twenty means it is level with the tip of my finger.You might want to try using different fingers for different notes, but thisworks for me. I once explained this to a taxi driver who now uses it by betting hisfriends he can tell the note they give him without looking at it. He wins alot of driks, evidently. Regards, Mark ThreadgoldThe probability of being watched is directly proportional to the stupidityof your act... -----Original Message-----From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf OfAndy Sent: 03 June 2008 21:00 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Trust me with your change nHi Mark. You are absolutely right of course. My lack of confidence to seek clarification of any change is a different issue and as you said, I didleave the shop. I just feel so very very uneasy about seeking confirmation with change. How do I do this? Do I need to seek out another customer and ask them to confirm? It's so much easier to burry your head in the sand andhop for trust in people. No longer. As I mentioned in an earlier message, I'm going to ask the bank for £5.00 notes rather than £20.00 from now on, soperhaps I can be a bit more proactive at the time of purchase rather than afterwards. Interesting point though. We all know that many visuallyimpaired people lack confidence so how do they cope with challenging queriesrelating to change etc. best wishes. Andy.----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Threadgold" <m.j.threadgold@xxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:10 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Trust me with your changeAndy, I don't think you have a leg to stand on if you try and involve any sort of legal argument with this firm. The fact is that you did not check yourchange. Had you done it there and then it would not have become an issue,and the fact you left the shop without doing so means you cannot say eitherway wether you were given the correct amount or not. If they say the till balanced they will probably have a paper printout of all the transactionsdone on the till so you would have a hard job proving otherwise.Sorry if it sounds harsh, but I think it would be easier to put it down toexperience and to start checking your change every time. There is no reason to feel distrusting about anything. They would soon shout if you didn't paythem enough, so you should not feel bad about checking they have not madea mistake, or indeed tried to rip you off. Regards, Mark Threadgold. -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Sent: 03 June 2008 19:00 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Trust me with your change Hi all. Here is something to encourage some debate and discussion on the list.Last Saturday, I was dropped off at a local builders merchant and my wifeparked outside while I made a couple of purchases indoors. I had previously visited the bank and had £60.00, in £20.00 notes in my pocket.My modest purchase was under £5.00 so I should have ended up with 2 £20.00notes,, a £10.00 and a £5.00 note and some loose change. I left the shop and walked the 15 foot across the pavement and got into the car, where my wife was waiting on me and to be perfectly frank I did notcheck my change as I'm unable to do this without feeling very distrusting.An hour or so later, she asked me for some cash and I emptied my pockets.I found 2 £20.00 notes a £5.00 note and some small change.We both realised that the shop had not recognized that I had handed over a£20, mistaking this for a £10 note perhaps. I agreed to visit the shop today and sort the problem out. Well, The man who served me acknowledged that I had indeed given him a £20.00 notebut insisted that in my change he had given me a £10.00 note, a £5.00 noteand some change and added that the till was in balance on Saturday evening. So I said to the man that if the missing £10.00 was not in the till, and notin my pocket, then it must be in his pocket. Again he stated that he wasquite sure that he gave me the £10.00 amongst my change. I asked him of the likelihood of loosing a £10.00 note from a pocket whilst not loosing a £5.00 note from the same pocket and he admitted that this was very unlikely, though confirmed that he had given me the correct change. I left the shop and this matter bugged me all day. There is no way when youreceive a £10.00, a £5.00 and some change and put this in separate pocketsthat you would loss one note and retain the other . Around 5.00pm I was getting very angry and telephoned the shop back and advised them of theabove and told them that I wanted my £10.00 back and a note of apology orI'd be asking my lawyer to contact Consumer Direct tomorrow with a complaint. The manager advised that he would telephone me back thirst thing, so I'm quite interested to just how they will play this thing out. I'm absolutelynot interested in receiving £10.00 from their petty chas tin. I need someform of acknowledgement that thy made a mistake. So, what do you think guy's. All though's uncomfortable moments when you simply push notes and coins into your pocket, feeling that there is something not write but wishing aboveeverything to be able to trust the person wheo has just served you. HaveI been doing this all wrong? if so, how do I check my change withough drawing attention to myself and looking like a miser,. a Scottish one at that? Any observations or ideas would be welcomed. Best wishes. 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