nvda is much better and that is definitely free. ----- Original Message ----- From: Saqib To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:41 PM Subject: [access-uk] Thunder Hi is there a place where I can get the free version of Thunder? I have tried www.screenreader.net and you are required to give a donation before you proceed to the download page. I'm trying not to sound stingy here but if it's free then why am I required to give an donation. If it states somewhere where were I need to give a donation before downloading then I'm quite happy to do that.