[access-uk] Re: Talx

Hi,

I've not come come across the poor contact problem; I don't use the phone to excess, so I guess I'm just fortunate. It stays in a clean pocket or on a relatively clean shelf.

Cheers,

Mike
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 10:57 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Talx


Well Sunil, I don't upgrade my phone yearly, but I've already explained my impoverished position.

Just wonder though if what you are reporting is one of the possible problems for blind people over other users. Its probable some dirt has got to the contacts of your phone. That might not happen so readily if you could use a protective case. Then, however, feeling the buttons for dialling and operating the phone, and even more for texting, would probably be near impossible.

Wonder if anyone has come across a Clingfilm thin covering to help alleviate this problem?
Ray

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sunil" <bosley20@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 4:38 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Talx


I change my phone once a year when I'm offered a free upgrade from
Orange. Most people do don't they? I normally have to upgrade because
the buttons on the number pad stop working properly and on the 6600
which I just upgraded from, the call button only functioned when I
pressed it really really hard - to the extent that it hurt my finger too
much.

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Mike Cassidy
Sent: 16 July 2005 16:13
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Talx


All good points Steve.

How often are we going to change our phones? Not that often I think.

Cheers,

Mike
----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 7:09 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Talx


Hi Kevin,

But what you don't realise is that Freedom do do that anyway.  They
get their money back by software maintenance agreement costs, and
charging the earth for JFW upgrades, rather than charging you for
transfers.  And what about charging you just for remote access to
another PC?  And what about charging you just because you are on XP
Pro, rather than Home?  Oh yes, they do it, but in much more devious
ways <Smile>.

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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
Of
kevin and emma
Sent: 15 July 2005 16:44
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Talx

oh come on mark! if you bought a new pc you wouldn't expect to have to 

pay
a
fee to access it if you already own a screenreader? the principle is
the 
same with talks. for all intense and purposes, talks is a cut down
screenreader aimed at mobile phones. look at it this way, JFW costs,
what, 
£650 or so? so using the talks example, if you boght an ew pc, you
wouldn't
be very happy if freedom scientific charged you another £220 despite
already
having paid the £650 for jfw!!
Kevin - co-owner/moderator of the blind gamers discussion list contact
me 
via email/msn:
kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Threadgold" <m.j.threadgold@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 4:32 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Talx


peter,

This subject has gone round the houses time and time again in the
three years i have had talks on my 9210i.

The developers have to recoup their costs  and perhaps even turn a
profit
to
enable continued development of the product. If the licencing of the 

software wasn't controlled it would be made freely available by
someone
and 
they would never sell any ligitimate versions once a pirate version
was
on
the web somewhere.

There have been suggestions to tie the software licence to the sim
card rather than the phone which is just as bad imho.

moaning about it is not going to change any of this. If I chose to
upgrade 
my 9210i I would expect to have to pay for the software again and
they
are
doing  you a favor by not making  you pay the whole price for each
change
of
phone you choose to have. You can also sell on the phone with the
licenced 
copy  or you would then own two copies of talks.

Mark Threadgold

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