So don't pay for it. Continue just using the standard TB service. Criticise them for promoting the service/leading us to believe we were accessing new material, but don't bother campaigning against a charge. A free streaming service would make no difference except for convenience/personal preference. Criticise them for misleading us, though - definitely.
Catherine----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain Lackie" <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 10:08 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Talking books for students
Catherine The point is that we are in effect paying twice for access to the samematerial. I wouldn't expect RNIB to campaign against this but the members ofboth RNIB and the Talking Book library can. If there were access to new material (which is what we were led to believe an e-delivery service would be, then a charge would be justified. Iain----- Original Message ----- From: "Catherine Turner" <catherineturner2000@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 9:21 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Talking books for students Hi, I might be missing something here as have not followed all of this thread. But if I understand it correctly we're talking about RNIB Talking Booksstreaming books which are at the same time available through their standardservice.If so, then 1) I think it's fruitless to expect RNIB to campaign against the charge since it's an RNIB service making the charge so they're of course notgoing to campaign against it; and 2) I don't see a huge need to campaign against the charge since it's, as you say, not allowing access to new material. Conversely to you, I think if it was allowing access to newmaterial there should be a huge campaign against charging for it. As it is, I can't see any advantages in terms of people's access needs to streaming asopposed to receiving material in the post, and so what's the need to complain about it? Sure, it'd be nicer for everyone if the streaming was free, but personally I don't see it as a huge issue... Catherine----- Original Message ----- From: "Iain Lackie" <ilackie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 8:12 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Talking books for studentsThe bad news is that if you want to stream books you have to pay. I think this is something RNIB and Talking Book members should be campaigning against. After all, there is no access to new material here. Iain----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Weetman" <goatmum@xxxxxxx>To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 7:21 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Talking books for studentsHumm, is this a "Paying Service" in addition to talking books library? Ormay I stream books freely as part of my TB subscription? I expected it was, unless I wanted to "buy" something to keep hold of? Christine W. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yusuf" <yusufaosman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 3:32 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Talking books for studentsAndy, Take a look at http://booksite.rnib.org.uk/eDelivery/ Thanks to Ian for posting this a couple of days ago. Yusuf ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Logue" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 1:13 PM Subject: [access-uk] Talking books for students > Hi all. > > I'm starting a counselling course in a few weeks time and need to get > access to several counselling/psychology books from the rnib. >> I visited their site this morning and cannot find a link to the > Student> Library. > > Can anyone please advise me of this and if possible a direct link to > titles on the above subject please. > > Best wishes. > > Andy. > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
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